No that’s consistent with my screenshot, it’s a sub nation, just not a sub tree. It’s not the end all be all of Swiss vehicles, just where they’re currently placed.
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He said that Swiss vehicles are in the German tree, not that all Swiss vehicles are added exclusively to Germany and never to any other nation. It’s the same with Argentina, where all its vehicles are in the German tree, yet Smin has also denied that being a sub nation.
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You’re saying the same thing I said in different words
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Yeah, just like Britain had the first MBT, the US had the first stealth fighter, every one since then has been similar, with tech stolen even, but none of them are straight up copies, or imitations, they were all designed with a purpose by competent and proven design teams
I’ll put it in layman’s terms, then: Switzerland is not a sub nation.
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Yes, it is the closest words I could get to what I was trying to say so I used it.
European countries stole gunpowder from China😜🤪😜🤪😜🤪
It seems will copy the British style. a mix sub tree for German and filling in the gaps
Basically:
Talk about the appearance of new Chinese prototypes flying(potentially 6th gen depending on how you define that) —> People insisting the US had reached this stage 4 years ago —> Talk about China stealing tech
I just remember talking about submarines and then I went away for a while and when I came back the Americans were being weird again, so I did my patriotic duty and played devil’s advocate
j10 has allot of features and tech based of lavi and its a known fact ,israels history of selling and granting china acsess for licence built israeli systems is historical ,notably the python 3 (pl8) it would be withought reasonable dought that the j10 is a copy of the lavi based of quite similar structural features
Probably things have changed since. But for what we see in game the case still stands, no swiss vehicles served under another tree.
Again, there is no reputable source that confirms that, it’s pure speculation based on “it looks like it” arguments, you can believe what you want, just don’t present it as fact
Also, the J-10B received significant structural and technological changes from the A so even if it was true for the A, it’s hard to say it’s true for the B
more or likley true allot of tech was illeagly sold to china by iai employees(my speculation) ,cause the deisgn similarities are a bit too similar to be a coincidence
The design similarities are all very surface level, and TBH they don’t actually look that much alike, no more than they both look like the F-16 anyways, the basic structure is that of any delta wing with canards which was a popular design of the time, looking at the Eurofighter and Gripen, you also can’t ignore the J-9 which definitely isn’t related to the Lavi and is also structurally much more similar to the J-10
Okay, easy.
-The US is a bajillion years ahead and China only made any progress because of tech theft.
-The US is a bajillion years behind and is never going to catch up.
There, people can pick the one they want to believe and move on. Yes?
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So what did we end up proving there?
Forgot the people denying offical US statements.
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Is this still going off ?
Of course lol.
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