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Funny if we go off the polls the Canadian one the US is third lol

How about neither and they finally add Hawks and Gnats?

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French IFV 20mm should have their indigenous belt.

Which badger are we talking about here?

Ah the South African one, thx

gszabi99 leaked a Swiss F/A-18C and F-5E around Autumn last year, so it’s entirely possible for us to get a whole bunch of Hornets.

I’m assuming we’re for sure getting:

  • F/A-18C (USA) – 9Ms, 120Bs, full AG loadouts
  • F-18C (Sweden/Finland) – 9Ms, 120Bs, no AG loadouts

Things we can speculate about are:

  • F/A-18C (Sweden/Finland) – 9Ms, 120Bs, full AG loadouts (they eventually got AG loadouts)
  • F/A-18C (Germany/Switzerland) – 9P-5s (or 9L/Is), 120Bs, iffy on whether it gets AG loadouts

Some variants I think are less likely but still very viable additions are:

  • CF-188 (UK/Canada) – 9Ms, 120Bs, full AG loadouts
  • F/A-18A (UK/Australia) – 9Ms, 120Bs, full AG loadouts

Some cool variants we could see in the future but probably won’t come next patch:

  • F/A-18A+ (Spain/Italy)
  • F/A-18A+ USMC (USA)

I’m definitely curious about what Gaijin will do with the baseline F/A-18A. The F/A-18A and A+ could both honestly either come as a Premium or a Squadron Vehicle in the future. The A+ would never be “top tier” - only being 13.7 at most - making it Squadron Vehicle material. And the A would only ever receive AIM-9L/Ms and AIM-7M/Ps - putting it at 12.7-13.0 - making it Premium material.

I definitely would prefer at least the F/A-18A to be in the TT, but Gaijin made the AV-8B NA a Sremium and the Su-33 a Squadron Vehicle when they should have been in their respective TTs. So it’s not unlike them to do something like that in my opinion.

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eh I’d expect the F/A-18A with 9L and AiM-7M at no higher than 12.3 because of it’s speed and flight performance

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It’s definitely a limited airframe (relative to something like the F-15A or JAS39A), but I wouldn’t put it lower than the F-16As. 12.7 seems fair if it only has AIM-9Ls.

If it were to receive AIM-9Ms it would have to be 13.0 as a matter of principle.

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the F-16A is at that BR only Because of it’s airframe

it’s what makes it so good at WVR combat

the F/A-18A lacks that ability because it’s slower than anything else in the 12.0-13.0 range except the Harriers, which do have better acceleration than it

it’s also not manouverable enough to warrant it’s slowness, especially if it has to fight F-16s

also I might remind you that it lacks HMD on the earlier versions

In all fairness we don’t have the Hornet’s airframe in game yet. So we cannot compare how it will perform in game to other airframes yet.

We do know the Hornet IRL is extremely good at pulling AOA and it should have decent acceleration. Top end speed isn’t everything of course. It entirely depends on its loadout, but 12.3 would more than likely be too low.

  • 9L/7M – 12.7
  • 9M/7M/P – 13.0

The F/A-18A definitely should not be the same BR as the F-4EJ Kai, that’s for sure lol

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we don’t have a Hornet FM in game, that is correct but we do have info on the Hornet’s behaviour and engine power

the A has a Thrust to Weight worse than the F4E when empty and the F-18C has a Max Sustained AOA of 9° at ~ Mach 0.9 with a Max Instant AOA of 18° at ~ Mach 0.6

(I dont have definitie numbers on the F-18A manouverability, only on C and E)

Graph on F/A-18C/E AOA

Fa-18c2

Addition: I do want to see Hornets in this game too, Especially the Baseline A variant, but they will not even remotely be meta defining or even top tier

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I agree, but what I am trying to get across is that Gaijin’s implementation of the aircraft matters more than the data we have available. We simply do not know if they will gimp the F/A-18A or make it comparable to the F-16A (which is overperforming by a lot).

Looking at the kit, and knowing the Hornet is a pretty solid airframe, I doubt it will be 12.3. Keep in mind that the F-14A Early is 12.7 and it still does not have its AIM-9Ls (granted that’s because it has Phoenixes, but those aren’t that amazing anyways imo). The F/A-18A is definitely more in line with the F-16A and F-14A Early than the F-4EJ Kai in my opinion. As a result, I expect it to be 12.7, not 12.3.

thr F-14A has ARH missiles

that’s the only reason for it’s BR

I’d compare it more to the F4S/J than the F-14A tho thus I’d put it at a lower BR

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Issue with that graph in comparison with the C and the E is the C is at a greater disadvantage

If the Python 4 is added soon, I wouldn’t be surprised, if an Aussie one is added, if it gets them.