We know that they are at least getting Thailand, when isn’t known.
You also said that the Typhoon would be DOA if it is released at the same time as the Super Hornet, which is from the same timeframe. Forgive me if I don’t take you at your word.
Nah man, Japan getting SK would be stupid. The only thing they have in common is being allied to the US and even today relations are strained between the two. If you are at the point where SK in Japan sounds like a good idea, you might as well do a Brazil or Turkish subtree for Japan instead. They at least won’t carry a risk of a huge controversy blowing up in their respective markets.
Well… The Typhoon will be released with Aim-9Ms and Aim-120Bs not ASRAAM and Aim-120C5s. So will be gimped in that capacity, and whilst the Typhoon will crap on the F-18 all day long IRL, in-game is a different story as I have already pointed out.
The first typhoon likely will be:
Limited on defensive aids like EW/MAWS
Limited on CMs with only BOL (which is underperforming compared to IRL significantly)
High Thrust meaning a very hot target
Limited to earlier IR/ARH missiles for the sake of balance
Probably a limited FM (compared to IRL)
Probably a limited loadout of missiles (8-10 instead of 12)
Probably placeholder radar (I’d guess Blue Vixen)
So it probably will be, considering the Super-hornet will be spamming off what 10-12? Aim-120Cs vs the Typhoons probably 4-6 Aim-120Bs.
And at this rate, the Typhoon DA2 will be fighting F-22s.
Even though it was just a leak list and I’m sure there was plenty of fake stuff going around I did see that Thailand was back up for debate as to if it should go to Japan or instead be switched to China. That’s why I assume we don’t have any “solid” subtree options.
R-74M2 is Su-57 only right? So irrelevant to a discussion about missiles that might come in the near future.
R-74M appears to have the same stats as the R-73M but with a better seeker based upon:
Considering I was comparing early block missiles, not the later blocks that I would class the R-74M as, then it wouldnt be an entirely fair comparison either, not that it appears to make much difference
Seeker performance is ultimately irrelevant as I suspect these missiles will ALL be given fake seeker performance the sake of gameplay/balance.
theres a lot of “probably” and “maybe” and “possibly” in this statement about the Typhoon and why it’s gonna be “DOA” but conveniently you ignore the fact that the F/A-18C flies like crap at full combat load relative to some of the top jets we have
Unless you know something I dont they actually alone this year have GREATLY improved relations and are regularly talking doing things and training together.
In a meta where FM is ultimately mitigated by radar/missile performance, this likely isnt a major deal. Additionally this was not a major concern of Gaijin when they pitted aircraft like the Torando F3 directly against the F-16/Mig-29 or F4F-ICE/F3 vs F-15C/Su-27/Gripen
If the Typhoon isnt added sooner rather than later, I do fear its going to be behind the curve. F-15C MSIP II vs Typhoon DA2 would have been a perfectly fair fight. Now we are past that point, we’ll need the full Typhoon F2 to stay in the fight. I do see MAJOR issues when defending against an IR threat in a Typhoon due to high thrust and mostly BOL for defence, a combo that screws over the Sea Harrier FA2 at the moment.
I can also see the Typhoon having other limiting factors like a smaller loadout size than is theoretically possible ,such as limiting it to 8 or 10 missiles instead of the full 12.
Whislt DOA might be hyperboel on my part. I do have seriously concerns that this continuous delaying they are doing is going to leave it fighting a far greater up-hill battle than it should be and that it is going to be in a state that will take months or maybe even years to fix/get to IRL level. Much like we’ve seen with the Tornado and still seeing with the Gripen.
From what I know, radars weren’t added to the Typhoon until the DA4 or 5, however radar-less DA1, 2, and 3s would have been perfectly fine as JAS39A counterparts.
Id imagine the Typhoon DAs to be an amalgam of all of them, but with certain limitaitons such as the lack of MAWS, Tornado engines, etc etc. Kinda like a Typhoon (Early) rather than a speicifc DA variant. That way Italy, Germany and Britain all get a Typhoon of equal performance, but sooner rather than later
The current best top tier jet in the game is the F-15J (M), followed by the 15C and Baz M.
However in spite of several F-16s with far better Fox 3s in game, the next best top tier jet currently in the meta… is the J-10A… a jet that absolutely cannot BVR to save its life and in fact has to push close range advantage with its Flight Model.
FM is not mitigated by missile performance or radar performance unless the performance gap is just that gargantuan. The EFT will not only handily compete in the radar department, but it’s missiles are also going to be among the best due to using the same missiles as the F/A-18/F-15s
The F/A-18 has a lot of missiles yes, and a strong radar. But it’s flight performance and more importantly the slowish speed of the 18C at full combat load, means it will find itself facing the exact same problem the J-10A has right now. It will suck at BVR…
The Eurofighter should be added soon yes, but there is still plenty of time to add it. The Hornet will not be its big threat either, the 15C will be a bigger threat to it than any of the base Hornet variants.
Hell at this rate they’re likely gonna skip straight to the Tranche 1 Block 5s