Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

so to tackle this particular bull by the horns.

The current best top tier jet in the game is the F-15J (M), followed by the 15C and Baz M.

However in spite of several F-16s with far better Fox 3s in game, the next best top tier jet currently in the meta… is the J-10A… a jet that absolutely cannot BVR to save its life and in fact has to push close range advantage with its Flight Model.

FM is not mitigated by missile performance or radar performance unless the performance gap is just that gargantuan. The EFT will not only handily compete in the radar department, but it’s missiles are also going to be among the best due to using the same missiles as the F/A-18/F-15s

The F/A-18 has a lot of missiles yes, and a strong radar. But it’s flight performance and more importantly the slowish speed of the 18C at full combat load, means it will find itself facing the exact same problem the J-10A has right now. It will suck at BVR…

The Eurofighter should be added soon yes, but there is still plenty of time to add it. The Hornet will not be its big threat either, the 15C will be a bigger threat to it than any of the base Hornet variants.

Hell at this rate they’re likely gonna skip straight to the Tranche 1 Block 5s

I don’t understand, this is just a fix for an already existing round.

That would have been welcomed, also.

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Damn, it’s probably going to drop when I’m at work knowing my luck if that’s the case :/
I can still hope for today though!

What’s your timezone?

an extra 10mm of pen for a top tier round

“60-80km”
COUGH With a half decent radar to guide it into IR range

Everyone always forgets the AAM-5 exists.

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I don’t see the problem with modern AESA radar from the Rafale if not already the good -5F ?

And PL-10.

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tbh I forget Japan exists (this is a joke)

oh none of the planes that get it will struggle to guide it. Just pointing out that this thing is NOT locking an IR signature from 80 km for those that think it might (yes some people do think that)

Even being able to lock from a quarter of that would be great.

It is deeply frustrating that last year, we were told

“No you cannot have the Typhoon, you’ve got wait till the F-15C MSIP II, its about equal in terms of balance”

Now its

“no you’ve got to wait for the super-hornet”

The prospect that Italy, Britain and Germany are going to get C&P F-18s instead of the Typhoon this Deemeber because “Typhoon too good” even though, it would only be 14.0 at most. Is just frustrating.

I couldnt be bothered to list them all. I missed off more than just Japan

Considering how little flight performance matters at top tier as long as it’s good enough to get you into a decent position, the one and only thing the Typhoon would have over other jets, its flight performance, wouldn’t even make a massive difference.

That things gonna be filth man I cant wait, hopefully they buff the AAM-3 to its assumed 50g pull similar to the Python 4

UK, But I work nightshift so disappear from 2200. And I’m probably going to be asleep 1400-2030

My guess is that the December version will be a carrier-based version, with most countries getting the F-18 and Russia and China getting the SU-33UB and J-15