I wish other Arietes also had CL3143
Better than the DM53, which is fictional, not useful - and unneccerssary.
It isn’t fictional. Ariete can use all NATO standard munitions.
In theory yes. However, this is much unneeded as the ariete can do with a lot better protection, and the CL - that is actually in Italian service - offers a much better spalling.
Holy shit Spikes are literally useless.
Gaijin when top attack missiles attack the roof of the tank, not loft to hit the drivers port
I mean they barely track and even if they hit the damage is just marginal to the enemy. Not to mention how slow they are.
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Well yeah, since Russia doesnt get an equivalent its not gonna be usable
Why tricky? If it can technically shoot at 3s for example, make it shoot at 3s ? No tricky things at all.
All that for saying, Leclercs are still massivly powercreeped, and could still be “meta” and enjoyable and still be a threat to other MBTs if they are unnerfed with the time.
Still waiting the French equivalent :p
Would probably be nerfed to oblivion like are Spikes today btw.
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People thought the freccia is the beginning of SPIKE IFVs and better vehicles will come over time, turns out, it is not only the beginning but also the apex of it.
taking a break from this mess here lol
I mean people may hate his words but it is what gaijin says anyways lmao, its gaijins fault to not make good decisions
Impossibly doubtful, especially given the time period and colapse of the soviet union.
Testing done by the west up to the 140mm only showed like a ~13%-20% increase in penetration compared to modern KEPs, and now all of a sudden russia had some breakthrough tech 100% KEP penetration increase by making the dart have massively more drag at 152mm?
OK.
It was a desperate misinformation move made by a collapsing republic to scare the west, and it didnt work. There would be substantial information on the Obj195 from the last 20 years, and the west would already have doubly better KEPs if there was even a notion this was true
Its fundamentally impossible given modern material sciences and actual physics, lets alone given for a failing USSR of 30 years ago
Absolute load of bs
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I like the vilkas except that 80% of maps at top tier are city maps which makes the spikes useless. But on mid and range maps the vilkas is not bad
I mean I like it too but Spikes rarely work, even at long range.
that’s true but still better than the puma without spikes at 10.0. They hit sometimes at least and are only a 0.3 increase
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I cannot really get behind this argument here, yes indeed you can get similar vehicles but thats the case for every other vehicles. Be it 2A4, early Leclerc or Ariete they offer somehow similar play styles but it does not really mean they don’t deserve their own spot. Though I get where you are coming from.
Yet again, if a said nation, not just Turkey I wholly support every other projects and contribute them whenever I can, can muster enough vehicles and support them with c&p stuff to form proper line-ups they are contenders in my eyes. This can be Turkey, Ukraine, Iran and Korea in Israeli style tech trees or Yugoslavia, Benelux, Switzerland and Spain/Iberian in conventional form.
I believe it should, nah it would. There’s total of 25 or more tons of weight difference, it cannot be all air like Ariete. Turkey does not have weight limitation like Japan or Korea, as I’ve stated Altay evolved to more westernised version of K2. Frontal protection would be pretty similar but K2 lacks the side armor that is for sure. You might’ve seen the guy who measured K2’s armor thickness.
That is an understatement, I’ve made the same point few comments above. Israel lacks whole line of Light Vehicles and funny part is they do have vehicles to form this branch. It is not Israel lacking vehicles at this point, it is snail implementing yet another Magach (I’m not against addition of them dont get me wrong add them alongside actually necessary vehicles) instead of required vehicles.
Well yes, that is correct but I’m not really buying the idea. Chilean Sub-Tree is better in my eyes, I suggest you to check @Chilean_Thunder’s work too.
Agree to disagree then. I’m not just advocating for addition of Turkey but pretty much ever other nation with capacity like I’ve mentioned. Those can be Turkey, Ukraine, Iran and Korea similar to Israel or Yugoslavia, Benelux, Switzerland and Spain/Iberian in conventional form. I’m into seeing new vehicles even if perform similar to what we got.
Do you really think one crew compartment nets in total increase of 10-15 tons ? Altay do have more raw armor than K2, It might not be in frontal arc, but sides to have more armor as well as newly added roof armor.
You can find rough thickness of K2’s sides armor which is only steel, there no composite material behind it. If I’m remembering correctly, K2’ turret weighed around 16 tons while Altay’s 25 tons. K2’s hull again roughly weighed around 38 tons while Altay’s 40 tons. Just food for thought.
Any vehicle leaks yet?
I think its still too early to talk about that
“Air Superiority” released mere half month ago