What does a level playing field look like to you? Plus they can do two things at once, it’s not either or.
at least let other nations catch up to 14.0 before we go making the Eurofighter and Rafale even better, also I believe the J-10B and F-2 also have some stealth as well as maybe like the MiG-29M/K or something like that
I haven’t seen any sources claimed for F-2, other than some people claiming it. For the Mig series, sources state Mig-35. But to be fair, it’s do or die out here, if you don’t advocate for your aircraft, then it’ll be quickly DOA before Gaijin implements fixes.
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You’re probably right about the MiG-35, that and the F-2 are obviously too old design wise to be truly stealthy (the F-2 taking its basic design from the F-16, I know it’s not actually that old) but have been updated with stealthier materials and coatings, TBH I can see 14.0 for everyone easily enough by June, you have the J-10B/J-11B for China, the F-2 for Japan, the JAS 39E for Sweden, and the SU-30SM/MiG-29M/K for Russia and then everyone is there, I also expect the F/A-18C for US and Sweden but IDK if that goes to 14.0
I could see them launching them with the AIM-120C-5s at 14.3 because it’s a relatively low performance airframe for BVR.
I would actually prefer to see Block I AIM-9X so we can start the push towards more advanced IR missiles like the Python 4/5, PL-10, ASRAAM, MICA IR, and IRIS-T
Yep more or less, the F-2 has composite materials and radar absorbent material to be somewhat stealthier than a traditional F-16 but it’s no true stealth fighter or anything. Just more of a bonus from manufacturing.
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Tbh I’d prefer not, I think Gen 5 missiles kinda rain on everyone’s parade, I don’t feel like pre-flaring at 10km any time I see anyone.
I would like some higher performance Gen 4 IR missiles such as the Python 4, PL-8B, AIM-9M-10, Magic 2 Mk.2, R-73Ms and the likes.
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To me Su-30SM is for March
Generally, agree, I think the 9X Block I could be fine, it still has a relatively short range compared to even the Python 4 or ASRAAM, but I agree that to start with the PL-8B, R-73M and Python 4 make sense, I just don’t see any of those happening without a decent improvement to US IR missile G loads so if the AIM-9M-10 can do 45-50G then sure but otherwise it feels a little mean
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The PL-8B, Python 4, R-73M, and the Magic II and AAM-3 getting their real life manoeuvrability should come first.
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Well the AIM-9M-10 would just kinda be like the AIM-9M we have now but with a Python 4 seeker. I think it would be a decent trade off to be slightly behind the pack for IR missiles seeing as the US has the best Fox-3s and some high performance BVR airframes.
3 of those aren’t even in the game yet dude and instead of coming first maybe all at the same time so everyone wins yeah
I know? I was saying they should come before the AIM-9X bl 1.
It sounds good until you realize that Israel gets the same amazing airframe with the Python 4 that has the same seeker as the M-10 but is in a better missile, and also has those amazing Fox 3s, so it’s less of a tradeoff and instead just worse, which from Gaijins POV is probably fine for a minor nation but not so much the US
an actual tradeoff is having to pick between the extended range of a Python 4 vs the better seeker and TVC of a 9X, I mean hell bring the 9X in nerfed like they did with the Magic 2 so the US can get a better IR missile without the potentially OP IRCCM, I mean isn’t that what DCS does, nerf the IRCCM to make the game more fun?
Also, the fact that the F/A-18C was one of the lead platforms for the 9X alongside the F-15C makes me think it’s more likely though sill probably further down the line
In my opinion, Su-30MK2 only armed with domestic chinese Air-to-Air armament
Gaijin add Su-30MKK with russian armament
The Python 4 would be the best missile out of all the high performance 4th gens, so I would be ok with seeing it limited to the F-16D and Kfir C.10 and the other jets getting the AIM-9M-10 to be kept in line with the US.
I dislike it when they need missiles for “balans”, considering those missiles typically don’t get their performance back. It also feels disingenuous playing with a fake thing.
It’s really all speculative though and gaijin will do gaijin, I have a feeling they’ll land somewhere in the middle of our predictions.
I semi agree with you, the Macic 2 for example should eventually get its true performance, but with missiles like the 9X, IRIS-T, ASRAAM, and Python 5 I think that they will and should always be somewhat nerfed, there is definitely a point at which missiles will become too good for the game to actually be enjoyable and IR missiles are especially dangerous for that, their flight performance should reflect real life but their flare rejection will probably never be accurate and I think that is a good thing
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100%, unless we see advanced IRCM, such as the kind that shines a laser into the missile’s seeker to disable it. Those types of planes should only fight other planes capable of that though. I really would not want to see a MICA IR in my F-16AOCU with all 45 CMs it has.
The Block 20 MLU is based on a Block 15 airframe while the AJ is based on the Block 10 airframe. The MLU also includes other changes such as AN/APG-66(V)3, additional countermeasures and AMRAAM integration, the latter two sadly missing in game.
Meanwhile the AJ is literally just the Block 10 from the US tree but with Sparrows while it lost the GBU-8 (no idea why considering AJ was advertised with them).
The issue with that is that in reality no Block 10 was ever equipped with the necessary modifications to use Sparrows, they were first introduced with the F-16A Block 15 ADF variant.