Fair enough, your probably right
True, maybe Turkey would work but even then idk. There are also more Abrams, and Abrams derivative like K1.
Singapore wouldn’t require a subtree since like I said it’s operated by a USAF squadron which makes it a valid addition
You mean the F-15SG? and while it’s possible, it would have to be that one under the US flag, not an actual Singaporean F-15SG
and Turkey has its own MBT with design help from the manufacturer of the K2, an SPAA that could be added before muti vehicle systems and can compete with the Pantsir, in theory, they also have the K9, as well as a domestic IFV, and the Sabra which is an upgrade program for the M60, and while they do have Leopard, as does everyone, because of the other options, it could be left out, like the Rafale from India
If you look at 428 FS wiki page you will see the F-15SG has RSAF rounded but also USAF tail and USAF squadron emblem, so it’s sort of both RSAF and USAF
I’ll have to say, I’m not completely opposed to Turkish subtree but I also very much doubt it’ll happen
I mean the ideal US subtree would be a nation which throughout the cold war pretty much just used US tech, so there’s no need to backfill as the US tree is quite full already there, and that more recently has developed domestic vehicles for itself, so that there are actually unique additions to the tree, and then a nation that doesn’t have too interesting an air force, as the US air tree is already stacked.
So, Turkey works, Iran kind of works, South Korea is too much, especially the air force, it would give the US another 5th gen too, taking the total to 3 or 5 depending on how you want to class the F-35s and TBH I can’t think of any more nations to even consider. Unless you just want Leopard 2s that is, given that it is the F-16 of tanks, it’s kind of hard to avoid, and the MBT solution most countries made.
KF-21 more like low observable 4.5 than true 5th gen imo. And US would have 8 5th gen since there are later block and early F-35, and early + late F-22, so I really have no complaints for US 5th gen stuff
Not counting YF-22 or YF-23 or X-32
The 5th gen thing would also apply to Turkey though. I think that IF they DONT add SK and NK in United Korea it makes sense to put SK in US, but if United Korea comes, you are right and Turkey is one of the best options
Atcually Bake beans is an amarican product 😁
Baked bean subtree for US???
not including blocks, just airframes, you can still say 2/4 given that the F-35s are all quite different before including the KF-21
And the KF-21 is a 5th gen, may not be the best one but it is 5th gen
also, there is a KF-21EX planned with an internal bay, so it’s not unlike the F-35 which is going to be used with external weapons in game realistically, so that is also not entirely stealth.
I did forget about the Turkish stealth fighter tbh, I suppose it’s probably unavoidable then that you get an extra one, though even in that case I’d rather see you have the Turkish one as it gives the US air tree less bloat overall, and I don’t want you getting ASRAAM which is apparently a potential option on the KF-21, though equally Turkey is working with BAE on the Kaan
Basically, I don’t think the US should get a subtree, not in the games current limited size TTs, pretty much any nation is going to be too much, the same is true for Russia
Nah too old since they were from like the 1800s
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US would be getting Peregrine missile by then so ASRAAM will be worse than what we would have anyways. But I do get wanting to have some stuff in UK only. I think maybe they just don’t add the Kaan to US and give it to Russia or something since they need it more tbh.
They can also just not give the KF-21 ASRAAM
American baked beans are something else entirely (maple syrup and pork belly)
Sounds better than tomato sauce tbh
We’ll have to see on the Peregrine, but yeah, any new 5th gen is a decent way off and probably still not as good as things like the Block 4 F-35, and we have no specs on either the Peregrine or Kaan or KF-21 so probably best to just pretend they don’t exist for now.
We are very close to British ASRAAM exclusivity, all we need is the Aussie F/A-18A and we have it, for now at least. Not that I have any real issue with sharing it, it just feels like a nice attainable thing that would be genuinely unique to the British tree, like the AIM-54 for you
That should have been the case with the Paveway IV too thinking about it, the only real users of it are Britain and Saudi, not that the bomb is even anything special, it kinda seems weird to have given it to Germany and Italy
Germany and Italy got LJDAM no? Or EGBU-xx?
There are 2 examples of US testing and integrating ASRAAM but it’s not necessary so shouldn’t really come
they got the LJDAM too same as Britain, but they also have the Paveway IV for some reason, like I said it’s kind of weird that they didn’t just give Britain the Paveway IV and Germany and Italy the LJDAM since they’re incredibly similar
Really? That’s pretty weird, yeah