That’s the UK. Beans aren’t nearly as popular here.
Well, I did say squadron specific (since it’s only operated by 428th FS) but now that you mention it it wouldn’t be a bad squadron vehicle either.
And a squadron vehicle could still serve as a filler for some capability gaps.
And the SG doesn’t have to come immediately, I’d also like to point towards the Su-33 as a squadron vehicle close to top tier
But what I really want for squadron F-15 is the F-15SE
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Not the F-15I, IA, or J JSI since those have direct connection to existing trees.
The F-15SA will definitely fill a gap though. It was also operated shortly by the USAF
SU-33 is 1.0 below top tier and isn’t a gap filler. JF-17 would be a better example, but its addition makes more sense as a genuinely unique jet that wouldn’t otherwise be in the Chinese tree, and also leads into the very likely Pakistani subtree for China
historic gap filler is fine but that doesn’t seem to be what you’re arguing for, you want vehicles to fill upcoming gaps in the tree, at what will be top tier, that either means main tree or subtree, and the subtree you want is one that fixes your ground problems, maybe Singapore does that, but I’m guessing you don’t just want a Leopard 2?
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Could still come to main tree as gap filler/sidegrade same update as upgraded F-15E, maybe foldered under it?
The SG being operated by an air force squadron makes a subtree unnecessary though
For ground, fixing the various bugs and issues with the abrams would probably be enough. And no, I don’t want a Leopard 2 in the US
That doesn’t seem likely, even if they do that it will be in separate updates
And you’ve complained about the lack of variety before now
then Singapore is not the subtree for you
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Fair enough, your probably right
True, maybe Turkey would work but even then idk. There are also more Abrams, and Abrams derivative like K1.
Singapore wouldn’t require a subtree since like I said it’s operated by a USAF squadron which makes it a valid addition
You mean the F-15SG? and while it’s possible, it would have to be that one under the US flag, not an actual Singaporean F-15SG
and Turkey has its own MBT with design help from the manufacturer of the K2, an SPAA that could be added before muti vehicle systems and can compete with the Pantsir, in theory, they also have the K9, as well as a domestic IFV, and the Sabra which is an upgrade program for the M60, and while they do have Leopard, as does everyone, because of the other options, it could be left out, like the Rafale from India
If you look at 428 FS wiki page you will see the F-15SG has RSAF rounded but also USAF tail and USAF squadron emblem, so it’s sort of both RSAF and USAF
I’ll have to say, I’m not completely opposed to Turkish subtree but I also very much doubt it’ll happen
I mean the ideal US subtree would be a nation which throughout the cold war pretty much just used US tech, so there’s no need to backfill as the US tree is quite full already there, and that more recently has developed domestic vehicles for itself, so that there are actually unique additions to the tree, and then a nation that doesn’t have too interesting an air force, as the US air tree is already stacked.
So, Turkey works, Iran kind of works, South Korea is too much, especially the air force, it would give the US another 5th gen too, taking the total to 3 or 5 depending on how you want to class the F-35s and TBH I can’t think of any more nations to even consider. Unless you just want Leopard 2s that is, given that it is the F-16 of tanks, it’s kind of hard to avoid, and the MBT solution most countries made.
KF-21 more like low observable 4.5 than true 5th gen imo. And US would have 8 5th gen since there are later block and early F-35, and early + late F-22, so I really have no complaints for US 5th gen stuff
Not counting YF-22 or YF-23 or X-32
The 5th gen thing would also apply to Turkey though. I think that IF they DONT add SK and NK in United Korea it makes sense to put SK in US, but if United Korea comes, you are right and Turkey is one of the best options
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Atcually Bake beans is an amarican product 😁
Baked bean subtree for US???
not including blocks, just airframes, you can still say 2/4 given that the F-35s are all quite different before including the KF-21
And the KF-21 is a 5th gen, may not be the best one but it is 5th gen
also, there is a KF-21EX planned with an internal bay, so it’s not unlike the F-35 which is going to be used with external weapons in game realistically, so that is also not entirely stealth.
I did forget about the Turkish stealth fighter tbh, I suppose it’s probably unavoidable then that you get an extra one, though even in that case I’d rather see you have the Turkish one as it gives the US air tree less bloat overall, and I don’t want you getting ASRAAM which is apparently a potential option on the KF-21, though equally Turkey is working with BAE on the Kaan
Basically, I don’t think the US should get a subtree, not in the games current limited size TTs, pretty much any nation is going to be too much, the same is true for Russia
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Nah too old since they were from like the 1800s
Winchester Wagon at -3.3?
March Major update: “Snake in my boot”
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US would be getting Peregrine missile by then so ASRAAM will be worse than what we would have anyways. But I do get wanting to have some stuff in UK only. I think maybe they just don’t add the Kaan to US and give it to Russia or something since they need it more tbh.
They can also just not give the KF-21 ASRAAM
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American baked beans are something else entirely (maple syrup and pork belly)
Sounds better than tomato sauce tbh