Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

F-15C/E are the same aircraft for air RB, and Su-27SM is a slightly better F-15C in overall airframe performance. They’re all equivalents

When they’re literally the same weapons and within 30 seconds in time to climb while having identical energy retention at speed; To claim that F-15E is superior to F-15C for air RB is the only obviously malicious thing that could be said, so I hope you don’t claim that.

Ah ok, then J-11B (early) at 13.7 or 14.0, and J-11BG with APG-63V3 F-15C later

No? F15C is 13.7, F15E/I is 14.0. Su27SM vs F15C is debatable, but ok I’ll give u the 4 extra missiles and MAWs, but R77 leaves sth to be desired.

It isn’t J11B (early), just J11B as it is standard J11B. Later ones are called BG, and then there is dual seat (BS) (lol), naval (BH), naval dual seat (BSH). BG and BGH also exists.

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Pretty much, I guess.
J-15 early might be 13.3/13.7, depending on how Gaijin models its weight.

What radar does J-15 have?

Early ones same as J11B in theory.

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Same unit as J-11B, but with more modes for anti-ship missions.

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That seems more likely

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Yes, the F-15C is under-BR’d as I said.
And yeah, R-77 has issues, so does MICA EM yet people use MICA EM very well and people have argued it’s the best AMRAHM in the game.

Either way the J-11A and J-10A are balanced for 13.7, and with the airframe and engines buffs Su-27SM got, it’s easily 14.0 capable as it’s slightly faster than F-15C in time to climb while having almost identical energy retention/sustained turn.

My complaints about Su-27SM for 14.0 went from 3+ to 1 complaint “radar scan rate isn’t ideal” which is barely a complaint for an aircraft when it’s still fast enough.
Especially if I choose to HMD R-77s like I do MICA EMs.

I went from never intending to crew the Su-27SM to actively grinding for it for the purposes of expert crewing it just from the FM and engine changes alone.

Then it could come with F/A-18C (AN/APG-73 RUG II/III) as both are naval jets

J-11B Early (Block 2) and J-11BH (PLANAF)

I predict that J-11BG from PLAAF avionics & engine better J-11B Early (Block 2 standard) and J-11B Late (Block 9)

Air-to-Air armaments on J-11BG (PLAAF)/J-11BHG (PLANAF) like J-10C, but battle rating higher 14.3

J-11B (Block 9) better J-15 but inferior to J-11BG/J-11BHG and J-15T

It might MLU upgrade J-11B Block 9

Both J-11BH (PLANAF) J-11B (Block 2) battle rating 14.0

J-11BH/J-11B Block 2 to 14.0 but J-11B Block 9 would be 14.3

So according to you the SU-27SM is better than the F-15E? is there a reason you seem to be the only person who knows this?

Maybe he has snail powers like Smin, okay i leave now

@BearHasLanded Weird of you to claim I’m everyone at all times.
I never made that claim. F-15E is equivalent to F-15C, and Su-27SM is equivalent as well.

Isn’t F-15E just F-15C with more thrust? (in an ARB context)

That’s absolutely worth .3 BR difference, no matter if you go by the current 13.7/14.0 or argue for a needed 14.0/14.3 (in which case some others would need 14.3 too)

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The only plane that its 14.0 material right now on Russia TT its the Su-35s. Its the only plane that its contemporary to the RAFALE. Anyone saying other wise its lying or copium really hard… The only way something like the Su-30sm will be 14.0 is if gaijin move Rafale and Eurofighter to 14.3 or if they cock another aberration like the current Su-27sm that wasn’t a 13.7 material an its abomination. With engine that someone could even said it never use, with Pylon/hardpoint that are from other models etc etc…

How is that not you claiming the SU-27SM is better than the F-15E?

Pardon my maths but if:

F-15E = F-15C < SU-27SM

then:

F-15E < SU-27SM

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Hi, smin, first time asking something here, are there any plans to put a mechanic similar to severe damage in naval ? Since killstealing is a big problem in the mode.