When was that, I know it leaked it was in development but that is a wholly separate thing?
And yeah, the US is upgrading its F-16s with AN/APG-83s, though tbh I’m not sure the F-16 is ever going to be a dominant jet in war thunder, it just lacks the firepower (even though I love it) :(
That’s what I mean; that it was in development.
Yeah, things are in development for years, I don’t think there was much doubt that they’d add it eventually, but it could just as easily be 6 or 8 or 10 years away as it is 1 or 2, I mean just look at all the thing that have been in the files for years and still haven’t been added
This appears to be "-021"airframe refenced in the above article
https://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F-16/airframe-profile/2869/
Yeah, they upgraded their block 40s and 50s but they haven’t ordered or received any F-16Vs, they still only use the C and D
Finished my suggestion for the B-2. Hopefully it doesn’t take long for it to be approved.
The B-2 doesn’t work as the game is now, it’ll be like the F-117 but even slower, easier to shoot down, and practically impossible to use for CAS
Like I said here
Simply making the suggestion for the future when we see suitable changes for modern bombers
fair enough
yeah probably. still have some more domestic and US made export stuff 4.5 gens though
Honestly this may be when the US gets its subtree, or you’ll just have to suck it up with the F/A-18E for a while until the game is ready for the F-15EX or F-22, I mean that’s what they did with the rest of us
i mean. there is the super hornet (2 blocks we could get) like you said, then there is upgraded F-15C and E if they want them to be new vehicles, then there is F-15SG, SA, QA, SE. and then F-18C+ w/ 79v4. and then there is F-16E, V, PoBIT. maybe even the Growler if they add EW stuff. then there are the things like YF-22 and YF-23 which could come before an F-22 since they have more basic aramment and not really any sensors
all have strong ties to US, all are good as interims from now to EX and 22. a little bonus from having the worlds largest MIC. btw, total of 15 interim aircraft. 12 of them with USAF, maybe 13
The Post Block F-16 program is supposed to bring a significant portion of the F-16 inventory up to a common standard ( in line with the F-16V), using tailored kits for each configuration as there are quite a few differences that exist under the hood between most major block variants (let alone all the fiddley bits within various Sub-blocks) so a one size fits all kit won’t work.
and considering as refenced the first few have been delivered, they kind of do operate them as the “F-16”.
It’s the oldest trick in the book, the “it’s only an upgrade” excuse to mollify the politicians and bean-counters in the same way the F-86A and -86D were (not at all) related projects, maybe a more relevant example would be the F-16A-15 & F-16C-25 being the same aircraft.
They have avoided tainting the US tree with foreign vehicles so far, with the Skink being the only exception off the top of my head, I imagine they’ll want to keep it that way if they can, bar a subtree if you get one.
I can see the F-16C PoBIT, but like I said, I don’t think any F-16 is the answer, it just doesn’t have the same firepower as it’s competition, so the way I see it, there is the 18E AESA, 15C AESA, 15E AESA, and then the 15EX or 22.
Alternatively, you could get a subtree, which is generally preferable to a one-off addition from another nation, and that may solve some issues, South Korea for example, as much as I hate the idea, doesn’t seem unlikely, and the 2022 improved Slam Eagle could definitely fill that gap I think
they arent even foreign vehicles, they are all Lockheed or Boeing. i know for sure the F-15SA has been tested under USAF, why wouldnt same apply to the F-16V, E, F-15SG, F-15QA. surely, they had to have been tested in the US before being deemed acceptable to sell
You know full well operator country matters, and testing is one thing, service is another, if we’re going off aircraft the US has tested then we can start adding SU-27s and MiG-29s to the US tree, alongside most Soviet military aircraft.
The US shouldn’t need foreign operated vehicles in its tree, it’s the same argument the German mains make about the KF41, and Gaijin have repeatedly denied that. It usually takes a really big gap before it’s considered and this isn’t that.
and yeah, it’s in line with, but it is still an F-16C by designation, which is what Gaijin use, and what I already suggested
i hope they at least make an exception for the SA. i like the testing livery. but still, since all the foreign operated vehicles i listed can be added to US without infringing on the trees and subtrees of others, they should go to US as well as other tree if they use them, preferably in whatever paint job they put on them for testing. they could, after all, come as premiums, event vehicles, or squadron vehicles not necessarily main tt
I’d expect if they are added it will be as premiums, that is the place for those random one-offs from other countries militaries, but obviously that’ll be when those vehicles aren’t the top dogs anymore.
And like I said, you’ve got the F-16 PoBIT, the F/A-18E, and the upgraded F-15C/E, there might be a small BR gap after that but I’m sure you’ll cope.
I mean the US managed years of Russia having the best top tier with the MiG-15bis, you’ve had it pretty good since then
F-15C isnt designed to defeat 4++ gen airframes.
Thats what F-22 is for.
F-15 even the current versions are support aircraft. How long has it taken for the US to actually modernise and produce a Gen 4++ version the
F-15EX
I would not expect an F-15 to do anything better than a Typhoon it simply is a legacy airframe. Sadly the US needs an F-22 to match late tranch Typhoons and Super Flankers and that adds a whole new balance issue.
F-15SE and SA would like to have a word
