tranche 3 is a counterpart to f15C apg63v3 ,the scan rate and performance of the radars used on both of those is quite similar
i have no problem killing eurofighters ingame with f15c , its easy if u know how to fly the plane
But then what advantage would the F-15C have? Unless it’s a CAPTOR-M T3 it’d be just worse. Pretty sure EFT can take 8 amraams too
I’m going to work on a suggestion for it then. Granted it’s very unlikely we will see it anytime soon with the state bombers are currently in but hopefully when we see a bomber rework and the introduction of modern bombers we could see the B-2 added soon after.
It would be good to have a suggestion for it anyway so that people can discuss the aircraft and it’s possible feature even if we don’t see it for a while.
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CAPTOR-M is just Blue Vixen from the Sea Harrier FA2 at hte moment and extremely underpowered.
Typhoon can only carry 6x AMRAAM and in that config you only have 2x IR missiles. Most effecient set up is 4+5
At the moment, F-15C has the radar and AMRAAM quantity advantage, and matches it in both climb rate and top speed. Also, depending on whether or not Typhoon has BOL or CMs (I genuinely dont know) might also have the CM advantage too.
F-15C vs Typhoon is a far smaller gap in performance than F-15C vs Tornado F3, ICE, or even Gripen C is.
F-15E has no such difference and is about as close as you can get with aircraft that have 2 different playstyles.
Just, with the F-15E, you can no longer zerg rush to victory anymore
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ok then, fixed CAPTOR-M EFT vs APG-63v3 F-15C. but then you must realize it is also fighting rafale with 8 MICA so it really could use that AESA. in WVR it loses to rafale and EFT, once CAPTOR-M gets fixed itll lose to EFT in BVR
why cant the F-15C be allowed to fully lean into what it was made for, but rafale is allowed to have 2019 version with 2010s AESA?
at the very least, give the C its BOL pods if nothing else
MICA are massively underpowered and whislt the AESA is excellent, the Rafale cant fully exploit its potential.
Then dont fight the Typhoon or Rafale in WVR and stay at BVR where it is equal to the EFT and superior to the Rafale.
Its like Tornado F3 vs F-16 we had for more than a year.
Maybe BOL, but 240 CMs is more than enough
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F-15C could get AESA, but it may still be worse than the F-15E at BVR given the weaker engines
and at the end of the day the F-15E is still competitive, just because it’s not the best any more doesn’t mean there’s a problem
even if it was still worse, I still want a proper 2000s F-15C instead of the amalgamation we have ingame. tbh if they fixed the APG-63/70 id be happy but seeing as they probably wont, the AESA is the next best step, with a BR increase to 14.0 of course
what make you think any of the US AESA radars won’t also be broken, honestly, they should focus on fixing the ones already in game instead of adding more that will also likely be broken.
Like I said, moving the F-15C from 13.7 to 14.0 isn’t really a priority, I get that you want the aircraft you play to be the best, but that can’t always be the case, the US has been on top since the introduction of Fox 3s, the F-15E is still fine, just be content being outmatched for once
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fair enough, its better for them to fix what we have, you are right.
I want the aircraft to be at their best, not necessarily the US tree as a whole to be the best (though itll always be up there due to general amount of stuff)
TBH, if the next 2 updates are what I think and hope they are, then the US will probably need something new by June. Though whether that is a new airframe, upgraded aircraft, new missiles, or some combination of the three, I don’t know.
I am slightly convinced now that we’ll get the F/A-18C in March, with the E coming in June, though that may not be enough, it would definitely be a 4.5gen, I mean the F/A-18E does fit the bill as a rank 9 aircraft, like the Typhoon and Rafale do now, just got to make sure you give it the 79 not the 73, and 12 AMRAAMs has to count for something
The only other 4.5gen aircraft the US have is the F-15EX, which may be ok to add once we have the F-2, SU-30SM, J10/11B, JAS 39NG, etc, but even then, it would be the most modern 4.5gen we’d have by a long way, even after all that. Maybe we do get a US F-15SA after all?
Well the F-16V / Post-Block F-16 is also an option.
Probably Block 60 with later engines and AESA? Current in-service aircrafts do contain some upgrades although the US hasn’t officially ordered any F-16V.
The US not having much left to add coincides with the leak that Gaijin were considering adding the F-22.
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I said that the US have
When was that, I know it leaked it was in development but that is a wholly separate thing?
And yeah, the US is upgrading its F-16s with AN/APG-83s, though tbh I’m not sure the F-16 is ever going to be a dominant jet in war thunder, it just lacks the firepower (even though I love it) :(
That’s what I mean; that it was in development.
Yeah, things are in development for years, I don’t think there was much doubt that they’d add it eventually, but it could just as easily be 6 or 8 or 10 years away as it is 1 or 2, I mean just look at all the thing that have been in the files for years and still haven’t been added
This appears to be "-021"airframe refenced in the above article
https://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F-16/airframe-profile/2869/
Yeah, they upgraded their block 40s and 50s but they haven’t ordered or received any F-16Vs, they still only use the C and D