Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

I will be very unhappy if the Leopard 3105 comes as a GE premium

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I like that they decided to name their crappy 3rd hand knock off Leo the Leopard 3

I mean, we really didn’t want to do it. If French Admiral (who I forget the name of) had been co-operative my understanding is we probably wouldn’t have bothered.

Though, while I understand how the French hate the British, I have little to no understanding as to why they would not sail their fleets to allied ports, particularly after Britain had affirmed its willingness to continue fighting “alone” (in reality not, since the Commonwealth did exist as did half of Europe’s forces in exile)

Problem was we had no idea whether the French Navy would pull a Toulon and scuttle their entire navy should the Germans roll over the border.

However, the French Navy being in German hands was an unacceptable risk, seeing as that would put the Kriegsmarine on par with the Royal Navy, and give them a half decent chance of breaking themselves and the Italians in and out of the Mediterranean.

Plus, as the saying goes, if you want something done, best do it yourself.

To pre-empt any other would be boat stealers, no Russia you are not getting Royal Sovereign.

Still waiting for them to get that at least a year before we do

Its kinda like the nuclear bombings for us.

Logically, when you really think about them, they make sense. But its a nasty logic to get there, and one you dont come back from.

It’s the name of the turret, the Cockerill 3105

Yeah. The estimated death toll from both Nuclear strikes was less than that from a conventional firestorm bombing raid on Tokyo the week before and the estimated death toll from a land invasion was something like 3 million allied personnel, that doesnt even include japanese civilian/military casualties.

I think the Nuclear bombings are the only reason there is even still a nation called Japan today

Oh god absolutely. Again, from what I understand, even Churchill frowned upon it somewhat, as he was essentially saying “sod you French lads, seeing as your Navy can’t make its mind up, we’re going to sink you in Harbour”

Much less the Naval staff actually doing the shooting/sinking of a former ally.

Someone’s getting firebombed if they do.

I’m sorry, I just don’t think it’s fair or reasonable to give someone a ship (in game, of course) that they couldn’t build, didn’t build, got gift wrapped for them in replacement of something else, managed to practically make it unserviceable and practically worthless for anything other than scrap in 6 years. And only 2 of those were in “wartime” - throw in the bit about them saying “we couldn’t possibly sail it back, it’s unseaworthy” and it gives me a sour taste in my mouth.

I take it you know about the projected casualties for Op Downfall…

I must have read higher else where but yeah

But I want the Wolja for Germany, it was the last BB in german service that did’nt Mutiny in '18

So you also think the Su-25KM should go to Russia despite being Israeli-Georgian.

I was referencing your last line particularly. Most of Japan would be gone, and moreover it’d be an irradiated hell hole by virtue of the fact I’d entirely expect the Americans to use Nuclear weapons on a tactical level, demolishing cities and the like. Not to mention (presumably) the vast numbers of long term deaths and injuries inflicted by radiation poisoning on US/Allied forces

Ah right. Even just ocnventional bombings, look at Dresden

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The expectation at the time that the war in Europe ended was that the Pacific war would end about 18 months later. So roughly late 1946, if things went well for the allies.

I mean, it may sound reductive or simplistic, but what separates a nuclear bomb from just a really, really big bomb? If bombing civilian centers and factories is seen as a legitimate form of warfare, or at the very least an acceptable casualty, (as all sides had done in both World Wars), why was the nuclear bomb so different?

The United States had been bombing Japan for quite a while at that point, but it had been seen as a valid and acceptable form of warfare. The difference, however, between an atom bomb and a regular bomb is the level of destruction. But I would argue that anybody could have seen that bombs in the future would become even more destructive, and mankind’s technological advancements would lead to increasingly devastating weapons.

People had already accepted the horror that is warfare (with regard to bombing cities, as that was the status quo), but weren’t prepared for the logical conclusion to their beliefs to be displayed so forthright.

All the United States had done was to use a bigger bomb.

Am I the only one who thinks this battlepass sounds neat? I’m especially interested in the potential of the ground vehicle being a selection from old battle passes, there is some cool stuff in there.

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No, I two prefer this, then locking unique things behind a grind you can’t do if you have a life.

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There may be bad prizes and prizes that are not interesting

It is my hope that in the next or near updates, we get a rework for subtrees. With the rest of BENELUX, ASEAN, and Chinese subtrees on the horizon, we need to seriously rethink how these subtrees are researched. I found a good suggestion on how to do this, from @MAUSWAFFE

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