I’d kill for that. A tornado at the same BR as the F-111 would be really fun. (In SB, I basically never use the guided weapons anyway)
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the tornado Gr1 was also outfitted with AIM-9Li as well
I wasnt sure if they were or not. I know Tornado F3 had them for a time, so they were in the the RAF arsenal at least. Going by the Tornado thread they arent listed, but that is not flawless.
I’ve asked over in the Tornado, they’ll know for certain / have any details on when
yeah I remember reading about them in the tornado thread awhile ago
That thread is where convos tend to happen for German and italian Tornados as well. So its possible it was for another IDS, not the Gr1.
Italian upgraded IDS (A-200C) carry Aim-9L/I as well. Actually Italian AV-8B+ should also have this variant instead of Aim-9M.
There is a suggestion for A-200C btw:
PS Italy also used AIM-9L/I-1 (saw it in F-104S ASA-M for example), don’t know the difference though.
That, I am not surprised about, Im guessing they’ll just use Aim-9M in place of Aim-9L/i for now to reduce workload.
I’d assume something like the A-200C would be a lower BR version of the Tornado Gr4 and ASSTA3.1 (or maybe same BR if those dont get Gen 5)
I think and I could be totally wrong, there is 3 different variants of Aim-9L with an IRCCM seeker. With each better than the last.
I suspect we’ll get the GR.4 for Britain and the ASSTA3 for Germany with AIM-9Ms and Li’s respectively.
Maybe.
In the Tornado Gr4s case, the primary A2G weapon it would receive (or at least I hope it would receive) is Brimstone, Normal operation it could carry up to 12, but I think 18 is possible. To balance that kind of A2G loadout, I see quite a high BR, maybe too high for Aim-9L/i to be even remotely suffecient. It is why I suspect it will get ASRAAM. With a max of 2 missiles and limited intergration, they would not be as strong as they would be on something like the Typhoon. They would not be able to lock at extreme angles for example. An ideal candiate for an early adopter
The A200C has a very good Number of weapons to be on the level with GR4 and ASSTA3. The Tornado that is lacking in the weapons department Is the ASSTA3, since It only have GBU24, GBU54, unguided bombs, Taurus and IRIS-T
I was thinking more in terms of A2A weapons, and less A2G. As Gr4 could have ASRAAM, ASSTA3.1 could have IRIS-T but it appears only Aim-9L/i
Though, if they all had the same class of A2A missiles, (Aim-9L/i / Aim-9M respectively) then yes, you are probably right
should F-4E get GBUs with Pave Spike or Aim-7F?
Well since the Tornado Is a CAS I Will take into account mainly the air to ground weapons ro decide it’s placement
True, though A2A and A2G need to be at least to a certain degree, in balance. Brimstones could be very powerful for A2G, which is why I assume a high BR and thus ASRAAM as a result as a result of that BR.
As a result, the A2G power of the A200 might be restricted to help keep it at a more managable BR for its A2A weapons
Though it is difficult to judge currently as the Tornados we have are so incomplete
I guess Tornado F.2 TIARA limited 4x AIM-9L could be 10.7 BR min to rank VII or 12.3 ~ 12.7 BR max in rank VIII if armed ASRAAM
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YEAH WOW another 9L slinger at 10.7 and there are other planes at that br with worse missiles.
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Well as the Tornado alredy work in game, the air to air Is Just defensive and not a priority
And even If a Better air to air missile will be required there Is Always this picture
Tranche 1 is cool. Everey series produced Eurofighter is.
F-106 is cool F-11F-1 or -2 would be cool. Vought 507 Vagabond probably woiuld be.
But a Eurofighter prototype would be somewhat underwhelming. Same programme but a less capable aircraft just to bring in the type earlier.
DA2 would either be very close to a Tranche 1 Eurofighter or far off the mark where I would rather fly a Mirage 2000, MiG-29 or F-16 because the DA-2 would fly with Spey or TurboUnion engines lacking radar etc.
When Eurofighter comes I want it to perform. A late DA2 likely would but then Tranche 1 would be more reasonable.
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the Gr4 would be kinda bad with just the 9M as it will be like 12.7 because of brimstones
Praying to the snail for dovbleg today
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