The Su-27S or something like that with R-73s and R-27Es would be quite nice alongside the Mirage 4000 with Magic IIs and R.530Ds. Their additions would add competitive missile buses to two nations, both of which are quite iconic (that is debatable for the Mirage 4000, however it’s iconic to me).
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They don’t even need to give us 27EA’s or R-77’s yet either. I can wait for active radar, just give me more damn pylons ffs. J-11 could come in too and give China something nice for once.
The thing is that, outside of some later variants, the Su-27 can’t use (or didn’t use; I’m not sure which one) R-77s, so even without ARH missiles, the Su-27S would be fine at 12.3. It would be better than anything else, however not by so much that it would be absolutely broken, and with the imminent additions of ARH missiles, it having the ability to carry six R-27Es would balance it out.
Su-27 can use R-77 even at the 27S level. 12.7 is fine until R-77’s or 27EA’s even.
Everywhere I’ve read it has said that no pre-modernisation variants can use R-77s, so could you please provide a source?
Honestly if we’re already heading into the Fox 3 era this December, I’d say that both Russia and China would be better off receiving the Su-30(MK2) as it would help fill multiple capabilities at the same time. It would give Russia/China a plane that can carry multiple Fox-3’s while also allowing it too carry advanced air too ground munitions with modern targeting pods, letting them keep up with western nations. Plus both Russia and China use the Su-30 so two birds one stone.
In my personal opinion, it’s very possible gajjin might just skip over the more modern versions of F-15’s and Su-27’s as they both lack Fox-3’s and even advanced air too ground capabilities for some. Later F-15’s and Su-30/33’s would make more since given how fast the game is moving with this tech
Don’t worry you’ll prove them wrong when the patch drops
r27ea dont exist
Do you have evidence?
Gaijin has used cases to tell us that in order to make money, they can jump directly from F16A to F16C in just six months, and it is still block50. Therefore, even if they directly launch Su30 and F15C, it is not surprising that developers can balance them by reducing weapon mounts, just like yak141
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it hasnt left testing stage that is, its not adopted
That is not evidence. Please provide some. Also, that is a contradiction. You said it doesn’t exist, and then you said it’s being tested. Something that doesn’t exist cannot be tested.
i dont know what you want me to look for
I want you to look for evidence of any kind. Right now, it’s just “trust me bro”.
i only heard it doesnt exist, and even if it did, it provides no real advantage
So, you don’t know for sure. And if you seriously believe that an ARH R-27ER wouldn’t provide any real advantage, I worry for your mental health.
The Su-27S couldn’t carry the R-77 right? So if we get it, the only ARH missiles it would get is the R-27EA which I don’t think entered service but was tested, which is enough for gaijin to add it.
Since the MiG-29SMT is in game and will almost certainly get R-77s, having an Su-27S with only R-73s and R-27Es would be best I reckon, however we’ll just have to wait and see what Gaijin will do.
It would do everything that the R-27ER can, but with ARH.