New BR changes are super dumb

After playing it, the IS 4m, and the T-10a for a while, I’d have no issue with the IS6 going up to match those other tanks, feels like they all have the same effectiveness.

Gaijin would be surprised how many people would accept historical imbalance for the sake of the experience of those fights.

Killing a Tiger 2 in a Jumbo Sherman is chef’s kiss

Killing a Tiger 2 in a T34 Heavy Tank is just point and click simulator

Tiger 2 (P)'s turret cheeks are weak enough to be penned by the Sherman’s 76mm, I don’t think its placement was egregious despite its round lolpenning some IS-2s and Jumbos

It was a tank to deal with and recognize when you’re up against it. At 6.7 it’s going to be fodder.

Gaijin has shown the community with these changes that they truly do not develop their game anymore it’s running on auto pilot.

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I don’t really know for sure…but i imagine someone will look at the proposed changes and make a quick check. Not only that, those changes are published in forum for commenting and sometimes they are reverted, modified or additional ones are added.

Yeah the classic ‘‘We heard your complaints’’ PR move, take 1 vehicle and revert the change so people feel heard but the next round of BR changes you push it through anyways.

Tigers had higher BRs in the past…i dont recall them being too weak back then

Okay, can we get 2016 enemies back then? It went down in BR because it’s made to be irrelevant, there was a time where APDS was useless, where stabilizers weren’t a thing, where heatfs wasn’t a thing, where Italy, China, France, Sweden, Israel weren’t a thing.

Tiger can be 6.0 if all those things are removed.

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Because they are decompressing the 5.7 and below area. They never said WHAT they were doing, we just all guessed.

It doesn’t even need decompressing, it’s absolutely ridiculous to attempt to decompress WW2 at the expense of everything above it that actually does need decompressing, and pretty much undoing the previous decompression, as lousy and poor as the attempt at it was anyways.

I wondering if gaijin just ignores Jagpanther? Which is still in 6.0

Indeed, it does appear to be the most Gaijin way to alter things. A bit of room is required everywhere in my opinion but so far it has ended up at the expense of 8.0+ish and, apart from a few exceptions , the 6.3-7.3 zone that got the initial tinkering is back to whatever issues it faced before. And more vehicles get to see the early helis.

All they had to do was take everything from 7 and up and move all of it 2 BRs up and then you can move stuff up and down as necessary and actually decompress and actually have more of a divide they supposedly wanted to create.

Second thing is stop being lazy and differentiate between air RB and ground RB when it comes to planes, fighter planes get screwed in ground because they’re good in air RB whilst CAS notoriously gets undertiered massively because they suck at air RB.

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They do, except the 6 is more mobile.

The Tiger P can ben penned by anything … even the weak 76 with 104mm of pen can pen it so it’s kinda ridiculous.

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How did Impetuoso not going up to higher br
It literally have the same br as JDS Harukaze while being far more superior

Tanks keep getting reload speeds shifted to vehicles Gaijin think are equivilents. Like T-54/55s reload speed being buffed to M48s reload speed despite the fact the previous reload speed was based off the T-54 operating manual and the fact that T-54 fires a much bigger round in a more crampt turret with a left hand loader rather than a right hand one. That T-54 operating manual isn’t pessamistic either, the British assesment of T-55 makes it clear reload speed is very bad. I understand sometimes realism makes way for gameplay balance but it’s amazing how often they can be both wrong balance and history wise.

And this time it’s Tiger II 105 being buffed to reload at an identical rate to T-29. Except of course T-29 is a much bigger turret with two loaders. And Tiger II 10.5 is not only fake but not feasable, it’s implimentation isn’t physically possible with the rangefinder where it is.

Realistically I’m also aware some of the British tanks (like Firefly) have a decent reload speed to make up for the fact AP does awful damage compared to APHE, now they’re slowing those reloads (on Comet) and buffing APHE reloads but the problem has never changed, APHE is still insane. What’s more irritating is Comet was already a mediocre vehicle for it’s 5.7 BR and the source they cited was a bit dodgy, using the slower reload speed as our in game maximum?

And vehicles where a reload buff would seem in order like M10/Achilles which fire weirdly slow, havn’t materialised.

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This in nice. Finaly i will have a JA37C with its missing RB74 and BOL pods experiance. Shame that it wil still never play it because 12.3 uptiers are constant

It’s a glass cannon. Should the Pz IV F2 go down to 1.0 just because that’s the only place where it would start to see tanks regularly who cannot pen it?

It’s all about the cannon. Don’t sit in the middle of the street, maybe, focus on the cannon. Which has like almost 70% more pen than the 76 jumbo and 1/2 the reload of a T34 Heavy

Seriously what the hell are these changes, 279 to 9.0 when the damn thing has to rely on essentially face hugging, it also won’t be able to kill stuff in an uptier. Turan 3 to 4.0 when while it is a better Panzer 4 it is only better cause of the maneuverability the Turan 3 should really be 4.3 with the Panzer 4s going back to their original BRs especially the Panzer 4 H.

I think when Fox 3’s are added, the 37D will get its RB99’s and moved back to 11.7-12.3 and 37C will finally get its 9L’s. Adding 9L’s to 37C right now pretty much makes the 37D obsolete.

Which i think i it should have been from start. Insted of adding a JA37D, give JA37C its 9L and those extra BOL/flare pods, move it to 11.3. And when they added a F-16s and Mig-29, they could have added a Gripen A/pre-seriese which i think would be balanced.

How could JA37D to 11.3? So should F104ASA and Mirage F1 go to 11.0?

The Tiger II, a glass cannon ? Every tank’s a glass cannon if you put it high enough in BR lol.
It’s literally one of the most heavy tank ever built and you’re telling me it’s a glass cannon ?

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Every tank’s a glass cannon if you put it high enough in BR

No, most tanks when they get to the point of being glass, are “glass spitball launchers” because their cannon is ALSO terrible by that point. And they’d have 35% win rates.

Tiger IIP when it gets to its glass cannon BR, is indeed a glass CANNON, with a great gun still, and it apparently holds its own just fine and is around 50% win rates or whatever.

So it belongs there, and in that role, balance-wise, most other tanks don’t.

Tiger ll 10,5 and the Panther 2 going to 7.0, Tiger E to 6.0, Jumbo to 5.7, RCV to to 9.0, T-69 to 9.0 and so on.
Circus in town early.

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