The fact that other missiles are underperforming because AIM 120 users begged for it? AAMs for Japan are heavily nerfed, PL-12s are heavily nerfed (in real life, they are superior to AIM 120Bs), SD-10s are heavily nerfed (short ranged PL-12s), MICAs are actually nerfed from their real life counterparts.
Every country got nerfed in relation to their “Fox 3s”, it’s not just an American thing.
they couldve just added 120C then, they obviously just didnt want to make that big of a jump at first
Yeah, that would be perfectly balanced. America would get AIM 120Cs, meanwhile everyone else was using R-27ERs for their top tier (Russia, Germany, China, and Italy), Darters and Derby (Britain and Israel), or just AIM 7Fs (Germany, Italy, and China). Then again, I forget American mains version of balance is America getting the best thing, while nobody is allowed to have anything better.
i mean with the unnerfed fox 3’s you are talking about not before
Oh, I see, my apologies. I’m used to dealing with American mains who are adamant that their stuff is bad and that they deserve buffs for whatever reason. I just figured you were trying to be that guy.
120Cs would benefit literally everyone except USSR.
Keep talking tough, boyo. You still refuse to 1v1 me. Funny how you stick to insults, but refuse to fight.
Also, do you really think that the AIM 120Cs would have benefited Japan? Nope. It also would not have benefited China either. Oh, and not France either.
Both France and China have F-16s that use AMRAAMs IRL, but I’m not sure if they could use the C variants.
The Chinese F-16 only uses AIM-7Fs, maybe they get AIM-7Ms, but they don’t have AIM 120s.
The French one, I forgot that Gaijin forced France to take the F-16 for no good reason. I believe that one gets generic 120As, but I could be wrong.
Just taking a look at the official equipment of Taiwan’s air force, they don’t use AIM 120s, unless somehow they are compatible with F-16As.
Edit: turns out they have ordered AIM 120Cs and AIM 9Xs, so it would be nice if China got those. Although knowing how Gaijin is, I doubt it will have the AGMs it also carries.
i have 2 thousand hours in the game, own f16c, f15c, su27sm, su30sm, su34. if you dont think thats enough to have an opinion i think you should get a grip, not to mention you’re just objectively wrong, like there is no “i play tournaments” thats simply not how it works.
migan makes amazing content, definetly the most informative youtuber rn.
Really?
You mean Japan that has F-15Js that can use 120C-5s? And in fact are one of the few non-US countries which actually gets all the way up to 120Ds?
You mean China(Taiwan), whose F-16s only used 120C-5 and up?
You mean France, who just got Belgium and the Netherlands, whose F-16s used 120C-5s?
I mean really you must have fallen out of the stupid tree today.
🤣 This is the first I’m seeing of this LMAO. But you’ll have to wait until my replacement monitor gets in before you get dragged up and down the street, RB console pleb.
Lol i have 10 rank 8
Tournament or not u are wrong
Ppl notch my datalink all the time and i notch theirs
Yes its harder but its possible
Maybe u dont avoide gate angling and thats what get u killed
dont you know if they win the 1v1 their argument is automatically more valid?
i cant understand how someone can play top tier and think datalink makes notching impossible
I guess we will see in another update if Gaijin will give the minor nations the AIM 120Cs or if they will completely skip over them, leaving China and Japan with 13.7 still, while America gets the 120Cs. That’s typically what happens anyways. America gets new stuff, and then everyone has to wait.
Also, I admitted that I messed up and forgot about Benelux in the French tree. Then again, who didn’t forget about the most pointless subtree? Same with Taiwan in the Chinese tree. I realised that the 120Cs came with the F-16Vs.
Ain’t nobody going to talk about this?
I was back there in 2024 (in fact most of us were there), and the playerbase that complained the most around the AIM-120 were mostly soviet-russian.
Right now, it is gimped and Gaijin admits it implicitly by not quoting any source to the changes when they gimped it back on July 24’.
So i don’t see how AIM-120 players were begging for nerfs when they got the same treatment as most of other nations with their respective missiles, the exception being the the aforementioned Soviets and French.
there was no alternative, besides r77 and derby every other fox 3 would be significantly too capable for an introductory fox 3 updated, and because america did it first gaijin gave them a range edge, but the aim120 really isnt particularly good it bogstandard.
im personally happy they choose not to introduce aim120c-5 level of missiles as the first fox 3s
Why even bother playing top tier? it is no skill and just horrible and will be forever
No?
The choices were “nerf” the Aim-120C5 level missiles down to Aim-120A level or leave them with SARH to fight Aim-120As until such time Aim-120C5s could be added.
You can pick which option was most fair.
The question becomes, what do we do with missiles like PL-12 and their carriers when Aim-120C5s can be added.
(for the record, Aim-120A/Bs are just as nerfed as everyone else at the moment with the exception of the MICAs who got a powerful upgrade to their seeker and the R-77-1 which is a strong missile on an excellent missile truck)