Naval mode is finally dead

[CapitanVento-psn]

@AlvisWisla

don’t want naval RB’s aiming system in arcade, I

You never had this in arcade… what kind of game are you playing?

@AlvisWisla

I want mindless fun when I want it to be mindless.

Then go play war thunder mobile…

@AlvisWisla

When I want to stress the neurons I know where to go.

Let me guess ;)

[AlvisWisla]

@CapitanVento-psn

Let me guess ;)

Top BR air RB, 5.7 air RB, top BR ground RB, and… probably 5.3 naval RB is the most challenging.

[Kweedko]

@ZeDong1

Now, though, there is no visible indication where the shells will land at all, and no skill involved into predicting your opponent, no skill involved in hitting a target that is moving… You don’t need any skill now, it’s just click simulator now with some fancy effects and randomized chance to hit.

In previous system there wasn’t any of this either - just ‘aim at circle or “V” mark’ game and get vertical adjustments. You still can predict you just don’t know how, try it more and you realize, you just don’t used to it now. And yet you have more time to maneuver and dodge enemy shots. DD and cruisers can actually kite bigger ships now and still make a good shots, speed now maters more.

https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/319446993031835882?public_key=UOWlwLc8M1wOUKRPSEy9

here is example of actual gameplay now

[Rupert64]

they even closed the report w/o reason…

[Rupert64]

are you really sure you played arcade? The V-marker existed only in RB mode - in Ab it was a green circle where to aim and a second circle where the shoots will be land

[Kweedko]

With Realistic aiming option you could get it in Arcade in previous control system. All pro arcade players used it.

[Rupert64]

this option didn’t work any more - there are a number of postings about this. bug report was closed w/o reason. And the auto-aimbot ruins coastal gameplay as they will be killed even at spawn by bluewater ships

[Kweedko]

@Rupert64

are you really sure you played arcade? The V-marker existed only in RB mode - in Ab it was a green circle where to aim and a second circle where the shoots will be land

Are you arguing with yourself?

Nothing seems ruined in costal for me. Just need some br tweaks.

[ZeDong1]

1. You at least had the indication where the shells will splash.
2. You also had chance to avoid getting hit due to opponent being bad at aiming.

Now you don’t see where you shoot, so prediction is harder, and skill issue is eliminated by AI adjusting your bad aim to mere point and click, rather than complex aiming.

[Kweedko]

@ZeDong1

You at least had the indication where the shells will splash.

no its not, if you think it is you can experiment in RB and realize its not

you can see “V” shoving you just point at sea not where shots land, neither where enemy ship will be, just point where you need to aim crosshair to hit the enemy ship in the “center of model” which is bullshit and counterintuitive cause when you aiming IRL your crew and automation compensate your and target speed when aim.

and here you barely see where target is(its RB btw in arcade with previous system you cant see the target) so how you can aim good not see where your shots land, you need to accept that you just aimed at some marker in the sea which give you some “right” information only when you and you target have uniform and rectilinear motion, adjust that on your and enemy speed and you got current system which is intuitive and entertaining .

New system just do that and its good, you concentrating on where to shoot .

@ZeDong1

You also had chance to avoid getting hit due to opponent being bad at aiming.

you still can just outmaneuver enemy shots(either it’s not yours achievement opponent “bad aiming” )

@ZeDong1

Now you don’t see where you shoot, so prediction is harder, and skill issue is eliminated by AI adjusting your bad aim to mere point and click, rather than complex aiming.

I can see where i shoot why don’t you? You just can’t to look at imaginable point in the sea anymore. I know if enemy turning i must compensate this with left or right adjustment relatively to the target not the some point at sea.

[CapitanVento-psn]

I can easily say the same for NAB, these br are (was…) the most enjoyable

[ZeDong1]

I can live without V or green lead marker, but seing the other pointer that indicates your turret position as well as where the shots are fired - that’s the dealbreaker for me. Green sight in RB exists, but now it was removed from AB. Pre-shooting the enemy maneuver becomes harder and is more random that way. Good luck hitting Atlanta’s with the aimbot when you drive something heavy with long reload.

Outmanoeuvering is not so efficient on slower ships that don’t turn or change speed that easily, which creates an imbalance between them and lighter vessels.

The newer style of aiming just doesn’t hit right with slow and methodical gameplay for me. Previously it had a bit of compexity, rewarding feeling when you hit your mark even without seeing the target. You felt, like a captain directing the fire. Now you just shout “shoot” whenever you feel like it.

Either way, I’m glad you liked the update, keep it up.
I didn’t, so I won’t. I don’t like the change and that is preference.

[Kweedko]

@ZeDong1

Good luck hitting Atlanta’s with the aimbot when you drive something heavy with long reload.

So you complaining that Atlanta now can shoot and maneuver at the same time? And outplay dreadnoughts?
Just that one is 10 times in favor of new system.

[ZeDong1]

It could before, but with older system you had more chances to hit it. Now you can’t. Guess that is not how it’s supposed to be?

[mrMojo]

No, we can’t. RB aim makes no sense, since you have to aim lower and lower while you proceed towards the enemy

[Kweedko]

You can’t i can, problem on your side.

[ZeDong1]

Good luck playing click simulator if you love it that much.

[Rupert64]

as well as we could handle the old AB aiming and you can’t?

[Kweedko]

Ain’t look like you can handle it.

[MoF1]

Since oct 2024 up to this day, I made a log of the games I played and what issues I encountered
starts here

Navy battles are very annoying atm

This is a 2 part message. 1st - Can the SKR-7, Saetta and other boats that have rockets be nerfed a bit or have longer delays between rockets? Folks will just sit in a place behind som rocks and spam rockets killing everything in sight. Also, the ships that are in the same br range cannot deal any significant amount of damage to the ones mentioned. I like naval mode but this is pure bs. 2nd We need more varied types of weather in Naval mode, probably in other modes as well. But in the naval re…

the latest is

Navy battles are very annoying atm

W games all the destroyers and cruisers can fire in the coastal boat area way better & at higher volume with bigger damage = your boat dies faster still too many OP boats with rockets and lasers = your boat dies faster aiming is also screwed better = your boat dies faster Big brain idea - Dont fix the maps! Implement -improvements- nobody asked for…

This last navy update tries to do everything but what was needed. I get it gaijin, you try to be realistic, and in reality most US navy projects made in the last decades were abject failures. Maybe try to implement the good parts, like fixing what the community is asking not the bull that makes everything worst.

Many thanks & much appreciation to all the users who speak up on this thread, mine and others.