NATO vs WP in EC setup

Been added to the MFG as well.

But not the TT IDSs

I just test flew it, I’m able to find and lock up boats lmao

Has the WTD61 just been given the naval search radar from the MFG?

Idk, tbh I’ve never paid attention to any tornados before… I was just confused since you said it had no search radar, I was in the game and found it instantly in x-ray

It wont lock onto the target drones unless using ACM, So I think it has for some reason gotten the naval radar. But it will lock onto the naval targets.

So, then yes, previous statement was correct. the WTD61 for some reaosn has the naval radar from the MFG (maybe that means its getting ASMs at some point)

but that search radar cant be used to find air targets nor does it have IFF. You can use ACM to lock onto airbourne targets to aid with firing Aim-9Ls via SEAM, but thats it. It cant be used to IFF targets.

also gets radar gun indicator on air targets

and that, forgot about the gunsight on it. Actually that is rather good in SB

Well, it’s not “only” ACM, it’s a radar.
It measures distance using radiowaves (RADAR means radio detection and ranging).
It also provides targeting data for gun and heaters.

Not that there’s much more games. as it is.
Outta 7 deaths I have in + F-4F, 5 are blue on blue.
This is a bit too much.

For the context of your original post though.

It cannot be used to find air targets
it cannot be used to identify friend or foe

Well, who knows…3 hours ago WTD61 didn’t have a radar at all, did it?

For some reaosn, the WTD61 has gotten the naval search radar from the Tornado MFG. Im not sure when it recieved it, or why. All 5 IDS have the exact same radar and to date the only one that had access to the naval search radar was the MFG because it was the only one currently with Anti-Ship missiles.

In terms of A2A capabilies, all 5 remain identical, with only access to the ACM which is used for SEAM and Gunsight. It does not provide IFF currently. (the Tornado IDS potentially had a air-search radar, but I dont know what the specs would be)

So this statement:

is false. and whilst yes, he shouldnt have TKed you, he did not have any form of IFF and was reliant only on VID. Which if you were in a German F4 vs an enemy team of F4s, I somewhat understand.

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Exactly, do you really think we’re in a position to make this situation even worse?

The Phantom FGR2/FG1, Tornado F3, Sea Harrier FRS1, etc. All have IFF on their search radars, but all will lock onto a target, even a friendly, when using ACM.

Tornado IDS has no IFF to begin with, it has no search radar to begin with. Can almost 100% guarantee that its ACM mode does not have IFF.

With a large amount of experience in the Tornado GR1 (which has the exact same radar as the WTD61) I can gurantee that it does not have ANY form of IFF.

As you have NEVER flown a Tornado of any description, including the IDS. and with your outstanding 13 matches and 13 kills in the F4-F. I’d conclude you have simply gotten lucky thus far

In contrast, I have

Phatnom FGR2: 198 matches, 874 kills
Phantom FG1: 50 matches, 187 Kills
Tornado F3: 137 matches, 355 kills

and the important one here

Tornado Gr1: 136 matches with 97 Kills.

and I have many, many more matches under my belt than that in other aircraft.

The Moral? Don’t act experienced, when you’re not.

But, I’m not. Begun playing jets a week ago, but it wasn’t me who came here claiming Prem Tornado doesn’t have radar. Do I need to quote you on that, again?

Mooeeep! You always see this point far too negatively.
…there are certainly many ways to make the red team more interesting. a 100% balance is simply not possible with our techtree system and the excessively long research times.

I currently see so many Chinese accounts. Gaijin will surely bring some new versions of chinese airplanes into the game. so in the future many chinese could be lured into the red team.
… I always say at this point: don’t always go for the easy RB solutions. think about how the red team could become more attractive as a sim player. which new red airplanes could help?

But it doesnt have an air to air radar.

This has been established already.

For some reason, since its addition, it got given the MFGs naval radar that it uses to guide AS-34s.

As the WTD61 does NOT have these missiles. It should not have this radar mode and is technically a bug. (Though all 5 IDS should have the same naval search radar) .

All 5 Tornado IDS, have the EXACT same A2A radar capabilies, none of which include any form of IFF, or even a search radar.

It’s ONLY Air to air radar mode is the ACM, which I originally stated and thus my original statement was correct.

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So, wahat does it have?

Naval search radar. it ONLY detects ships.

Its meant for guiding/targetting AS-34s or other Anti-Ship Missiles onto targets:

So, when it tracks an airplane and provides targeting data for guns and missiles, it’s what?