Move up the PzH2000 already

Sure, give me 5 years to load HESH into my conqueror.

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or just hit their ammorack with the apds (im also a conqueror player and trash HE slingers that way)
Remember, if you can surprise them they might not have the time to aim at your roof, and you can just trash them

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Panther.
There’s also ap shot on side of tiger II turret. ( it went straight trough)
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honestly its so destroyed it could be anything german.

yea but they just need to tickle you from across the map in their SPG with a laser rangefinder before you even get night vision or stabilisers. You need to guesstimate the range and if you don’t have an overperforming APHE shell shoot them three or four times to wipe out crew

german steel was really poor quality should add. it wouldn’t be quite so catastrophic with well built machines

they actually need to aim against many tanks, just as we have to do against their ammo rack or just shoot their gunner
I have stab where they have laser rangefinder. We both need to aim to kill. Fair enough.

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they dont need to aim much to cause overpressure tho. HE slingers are really braindead easy to play

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Ive tanked more HE shells than died from in my conqueror
They need to aim if they want to kill me, and so do i, however i can also shoot them without aiming and it will probably take out their gunner regardless

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look i never claimed HE slinger players are on average good. the amount of time they target my upper plate is comically high. overall they don’t need to aim for as small weakspots as a AP firing vehicle. Just shoot the front track and you overpressure 95% of vehicles instantly and completely cheese the game

good thing most of the time this isn’t a problem and if it is, then go into something with a fast firing cannon and shred them.
At same battleratings, some vehicles be strong against some others of particular class and vice versa
Autocannons are especially good against lightly armored vehicles
he slingers aren’t good against fast targets with fast firing guns if the fast target is a competetive player who knows positioning
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I keep a shredder in my lineup

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man i wish falcon was 8.0 in realistic. its 8.3 for us. I hope they remove the APDS and put it to 7.7 so britain has a SPAA and good shredder vehicle at the BR as fox and scimitar are absolute trash after they got nerfed far too heavily

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yes i don’t even use the apds in it the stock mix is what i use
Kill planes kill tanks, no switching between shells

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I don’t think the VIDAR needs to be moved up but the PzH 2000 needs to go up, Its just VIDAR if not better

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Soon as it gets thermals it can go up. And yes even vidar should be moved up , just because of those thermals, it gives a damn big advantage , no matter what people claim

Once the sales on the Premium Italian one slow down it will likely go up. but all the SPHs need to go up a full BR IMO, but especially the high velocity ones, the LRF ones and the Russian 2S with its trolly bounce armour and HEAT shells.

Game is not being balanced on your feelings

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I said “in my opinion” not “based on my feelings” very big difference

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Your opinion is bad

Really? care to actually elaborate?

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There is nothing really to elaborate.

You want to ruin vehicles that are currently balanced, based on “your opinion/feelings”. Your inability to deal with vehicles that have no armor and are filled with big 155mm HE shells is no reason to ruin their MM.

Another bad opinion - Here you want to move vehicle “with trolly armor” to different BR instead of fixing the armor bug.

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