Move up the PzH2000 already

They are not balanced though, yes that’s my opinion based of both playing and fighting them.

It’s not a bug, its the extreme angle of the armour that bounces most shells, combined with the FACT that it’s is thick enough to resist most HE at its rank AND the gun breech will shield half the crew if a shell dose get into the turret… OH and its big enough that an APHE will detonate BEFORE it reaches the ammo and the spalling wont make in into the ammo compartment. the HEAT/HEAT-FS that they carry renders the German heavy tanks and TDs that they face completely useless having 250/400mm of pen respectively.
And they are 6.0/6.3 Explain how that is “balanced”

It’s more based of my experience playing them then fighting them. I LOVE ripping Tiger 2, Jagdtigers, etc apart with them, but I can recognize its EXTREAMLY unfair.

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Problem is the panzer 2000 isnt balanced at 7.7

It has proxy fuze for planes and it’s pretty usefull.

It has a LRF

It has a 5 second reload

It has an absurd survivability and even when you hit ammo it wont blow up often.

I use the italian one and it’s dead easy, did some triple kills a couple times with it without even trying, find a good angle to lock, dont move, collect the check.

It could go up to 8.0-8.3 easily and I’m pretty sure that it would be even easier to perform with it at this br since theres a load of light vehicles running around at that br.

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This vehicle has been in game for a short period now, and it is alarming how even people with barely 0.5KD’s in their other german tanks are hitting double, sometimes tripple that with the PZH2000 alone.

It single handedly has compressed the life out of 6.7 to even 8.0. It’s nearly as mobile as the most mobile MBT’s of 8.0 / 8.3, its got a laser range finder, it has a 5 second reload for the first two rounds, which either allows for a double kill, or to take out one target with extreme prejudice.

It not only has that, it as stated above has ridiculous survivability, comapared to the older SPG’s that were in game, and has a fantastic proxy round which can take down most if not all air craft it will see nearly as good as the SPAA at 8.3 and above.

This thing has absolutely dominated the bracket since its intoduction, much like the VIDAR did , and it has no business being where it is.

You cant out range it, its gun handling also allows for fast easy aiming, as well as all of that, its not as if once it gets past the initial 5 second reload its slow, its still 7 seconds which is faster than most the roster as well.

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To add insult to injury, next patch they are gonna buff the composite armor plates, making it more resistant to CAS and overpressure

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and so its BR should reflect that

this isjust ridiculous at thsi point TBH

NGL seeing the amoutn of stuff germany is getting, is there any point playing another tree? they are by far the most dominant tier for tier

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Buh uh

Not to mention they can use the ammo box to allow them to take a small ammo load to greatly reduce the chances of ammo racking them. That should be removed from SPHs, well everything that’s not a SPAA IMO. but I would settle for SPHs.

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It should only be removed for the PzH. The 2S1, 2S3M and 2S17 and other spg’s that are BALANCED should keep it

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lmao, “semi common”

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