german steel was really poor quality should add. it wouldn’t be quite so catastrophic with well built machines
they actually need to aim against many tanks, just as we have to do against their ammo rack or just shoot their gunner
I have stab where they have laser rangefinder. We both need to aim to kill. Fair enough.
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they dont need to aim much to cause overpressure tho. HE slingers are really braindead easy to play
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Ive tanked more HE shells than died from in my conqueror
They need to aim if they want to kill me, and so do i, however i can also shoot them without aiming and it will probably take out their gunner regardless
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look i never claimed HE slinger players are on average good. the amount of time they target my upper plate is comically high. overall they don’t need to aim for as small weakspots as a AP firing vehicle. Just shoot the front track and you overpressure 95% of vehicles instantly and completely cheese the game
good thing most of the time this isn’t a problem and if it is, then go into something with a fast firing cannon and shred them.
At same battleratings, some vehicles be strong against some others of particular class and vice versa
Autocannons are especially good against lightly armored vehicles
he slingers aren’t good against fast targets with fast firing guns if the fast target is a competetive player who knows positioning
I keep a shredder in my lineup
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man i wish falcon was 8.0 in realistic. its 8.3 for us. I hope they remove the APDS and put it to 7.7 so britain has a SPAA and good shredder vehicle at the BR as fox and scimitar are absolute trash after they got nerfed far too heavily
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yes i don’t even use the apds in it the stock mix is what i use
Kill planes kill tanks, no switching between shells
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I don’t think the VIDAR needs to be moved up but the PzH 2000 needs to go up, Its just VIDAR if not better
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Soon as it gets thermals it can go up. And yes even vidar should be moved up , just because of those thermals, it gives a damn big advantage , no matter what people claim
Once the sales on the Premium Italian one slow down it will likely go up. but all the SPHs need to go up a full BR IMO, but especially the high velocity ones, the LRF ones and the Russian 2S with its trolly bounce armour and HEAT shells.
Game is not being balanced on your feelings
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I said “in my opinion” not “based on my feelings” very big difference
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Your opinion is bad
Really? care to actually elaborate?
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There is nothing really to elaborate.
You want to ruin vehicles that are currently balanced, based on “your opinion/feelings”. Your inability to deal with vehicles that have no armor and are filled with big 155mm HE shells is no reason to ruin their MM.
Another bad opinion - Here you want to move vehicle “with trolly armor” to different BR instead of fixing the armor bug.
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They are not balanced though, yes that’s my opinion based of both playing and fighting them.
It’s not a bug, its the extreme angle of the armour that bounces most shells, combined with the FACT that it’s is thick enough to resist most HE at its rank AND the gun breech will shield half the crew if a shell dose get into the turret… OH and its big enough that an APHE will detonate BEFORE it reaches the ammo and the spalling wont make in into the ammo compartment. the HEAT/HEAT-FS that they carry renders the German heavy tanks and TDs that they face completely useless having 250/400mm of pen respectively.
And they are 6.0/6.3 Explain how that is “balanced”
It’s more based of my experience playing them then fighting them. I LOVE ripping Tiger 2, Jagdtigers, etc apart with them, but I can recognize its EXTREAMLY unfair.
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Problem is the panzer 2000 isnt balanced at 7.7
It has proxy fuze for planes and it’s pretty usefull.
It has a LRF
It has a 5 second reload
It has an absurd survivability and even when you hit ammo it wont blow up often.
I use the italian one and it’s dead easy, did some triple kills a couple times with it without even trying, find a good angle to lock, dont move, collect the check.
It could go up to 8.0-8.3 easily and I’m pretty sure that it would be even easier to perform with it at this br since theres a load of light vehicles running around at that br.
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This vehicle has been in game for a short period now, and it is alarming how even people with barely 0.5KD’s in their other german tanks are hitting double, sometimes tripple that with the PZH2000 alone.
It single handedly has compressed the life out of 6.7 to even 8.0. It’s nearly as mobile as the most mobile MBT’s of 8.0 / 8.3, its got a laser range finder, it has a 5 second reload for the first two rounds, which either allows for a double kill, or to take out one target with extreme prejudice.
It not only has that, it as stated above has ridiculous survivability, comapared to the older SPG’s that were in game, and has a fantastic proxy round which can take down most if not all air craft it will see nearly as good as the SPAA at 8.3 and above.
This thing has absolutely dominated the bracket since its intoduction, much like the VIDAR did , and it has no business being where it is.
You cant out range it, its gun handling also allows for fast easy aiming, as well as all of that, its not as if once it gets past the initial 5 second reload its slow, its still 7 seconds which is faster than most the roster as well.
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To add insult to injury, next patch they are gonna buff the composite armor plates, making it more resistant to CAS and overpressure
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