Well the 9Ds have much better acceleration than the Aim-9Js (Actually Aim-9Ps), but the caged seeker really limits their usage in my opinion.
I can understand taking 4x Aim-9Ds over 4x Aim-9Ps, but I think I would rather take 6x Aim-9Ps than 4x Aim-9Ds at a 9.3 downtier in a lot of cases to be honest, even if it means worse flight performance.
The AJ37 actually has worse acceleration (if you take the gun pod and the extra fuel and the flare pod) than the rest of the 10.3 Fighters…
The AJ37 and J35XS have the worse sustained turn rate, but at least the AJ37 gets great instantaneous turn rate.
Depends on how fast you’re going compared to the enemy, and the difference in altitude. You can get some 2.5km shots if they’re slow and you’re fast, or you may only get 1.5km shots if they are fast and very high up. Either way, 6x of them is quite good.
True, but only 4 of them (in which they aren’t very useful in a dogfight).
Very situational but I agree they can be useful.
That’s true, and I could see the MiG 21s and F8s going to 10.7 too.
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Issue is that when you do a turn in the AJ37 you rapidly lose speed, much faster than XS bc well it turns harder
But I disagree with moving it to 10.7 without RB27, give it that and these issues basically disappear
Tho it probably should go to 10.7
The Ariete does not belong any higher than it is, its perfectly fine at 9.3.
Including the ayit, ayit does not belong at 9.7 as a subsonic jet
there are subsonic jets at 13.0
It’s 10.0 worthy because of the fact that it gets flares and 4x Aim-9D / Shir 2 with decent flight model.
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Ariete is worth 9.7 after they move up all the 10.3 missile buses.
Not really its a fantastic sub sonic fighter but even at 9.3 it gets into the issue where its sub sonic and a lot of thing are no longer sub sonic, meaning if they dont want to engage you they dont have to, kind of just ends up being like some of the zero’s or the Vampyr which is that your really good in a fight but only if someone allows you to drag them into that fight or they just get cocky and think they can fight you. I’ve had one too many matches where I get one or two kills in it and then all that is left is supersonic fighters who are ground pounding and I just have to loose the match because they keep running from me and hitting ground targets.
That’s the thing – it’s like the BI, Me 163, Vampyr… etc.
They can basically easily win any dogfight and so it heavily discourages the enemy team from dogfighting, but allows your team to go for it.
You are basically untouchable against 8.3s, even 8.7s.
You need to get third-partied to even have a chance of getting killed.
The ariete is an entire jump in br over the 8.3 and 8.7 planes as is every other single plane at 9.3 go ahead try and kill a f104 in a saber you get the same result. However it is worth noting that these 8.3 and 8.7 planes especially with later saber models can compete against the Ariete. Moving the Ariete to 9.7 would allow it to see 10.7 and you’re out of your mind if you think the Ariete could ever in a million years fight a J7D or F5C as the difference between 10.7 and 9.7 is insanely larger than 8.3 to 9.3.
So I think a better idea is to just overall limit the br’s planes can see do to the jumps in technology being so large between a full.
The BI, Me 163 and Vampyr are all exceptional turn aircraft and rate fighters great for dogfights along with the Ariete which absolutely discourages other planes from dogfighting them, this is why the Ariete and many of these planes sit at br’s where they are much slower than the other aircraft so these aircraft can have choices on how to engage them such as an f104 which can just boom and zoom the Ariete all day making it a balanced interaction at its BR even if it is frustrating that the Ariete can’t ever catch them. You wouldn’t dogfight a zero in a Mustang so you shouldn’t dogfight a Ariete in supersonic planes. The Ariete is perfectly fine at 9.3 its well balanced for its BR any amount of uptier and it noticeable struggles. At 9.7 which isnt a BR really it would just be getting swatted out the air every match by IR missiles which it has zero counter to, and god forbid it see’s a 10.7 match where it will have zero fighting chance against all aspect missiles, radar missiles all on fantastic dogfighting aircraft.
