Mate, if you cannot dodge an AIM 9J, that’s on you. I hate pulling out the skill issue card, but that’s the only thing that describes dying to a AIM 9J
No !
That is on you, if u can, demonstrate it. 9J is impossible to dodge unless they are fired from 1. too far away or 2. bad angles. Even 9E are hard to dodge if u utilise the off axis well.
Also a reminder 9.3 still fields MiG17. If u wanna try, I won’t mind.
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Mate, I don’t play those BRs. Haven’t played it loyally since they put the Saab and Kfir at 11.3 or 11.7, and haven’t wanted back since. I dabbled in it here and there, but the AIM 9L spam is far worse than the AIM 9J.
The issue is the br range is 10.7 = complete death to all aspects
10.3 = complete death to anything but it
It should be given its falcons and put to 10.7
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Then you have no idea how to balance the game, as you told me earlier, I’m glad you have no say in balance decisions.
nobody is routinely dodging 20g+ missiles without flares.
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Kind of agree, the f100d is a good example, VERY fun jet, but often suffers from high power missile volleys that you cant dodge over time. you can dodge one aim9G, but the second one will hit since youre too slow :/
DECOMPRESSION
Moving problems up or down in BR doesn’t lower the number of problems
By that logic, if I move M1A2 to 8.0, doesn’t create more problems.
Because if it was 8.0 in the first place, moving it back to 11.7 doesn’t lower number of problems. Because number of problems can’t be lowered without decompression, right? Intentional stupidity or disguised disagreement with the J35XS moving up? Completely unknown to me.
Pedantic.
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And he is not?
I’m not defending the J35XS placement, but the problem should be tackled at its source, and that’s BR compression.
If we move top tier to 14.7 or higher, we get a much needed breathing room to balance other things down low
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How is he pedantic? the problem is correct. BR at 9.3 - 11.3 is very compressed and it need decompression, moving around doesn’t change anything and he correctly identify the solution while you waffle around and made an argument dumb enough to admit you into state asylum and disqualify you from future draft in case an apocalyptic alien invasion forces every able bodied individual to fight for the planet.
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That is a general issue. To give an American analogy, it’s like seeing a homeless guy begging on the street, walk up to him, and yelling “Homelessness is a problem in this country! Giving you food won’t change the problem!”. Homeless guy then punches you for being a jerk.
What I am saying is, that is off-topic. Go advocate for decompression in another thread. If you consider even momentarily the context of this thread, you will realize your post is positioned against the J35XS going up. That is to say, your intention and the result do not match.
Sure it can go up. whether it’s gonna get fucked by MiG-23 is just a problem for another day for you isn’t it?
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Oh, I see. You are simply opposed to it going up. In that case argue with everyone else in this thread, and not me exclusively. Also, make actual arguments instead of whatever nonsense this is.
The J35XS might have issues fighting Mig-23s, but by that same argument the 9.7 premiums should go down to 9.0 because they suffer fighting the J35XS at 10.3.
10.3 is too low for a supersonic aircraft with 6x half decent AAMs, a half decent FM and actually 12 flares, more than many when it gets a downtier.
Sure it would be DOA at 11.0 where it probably should actually be when looking at downtiers, but 10.7 would be fine for it and would place it onpar with things like the F-5C
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If it goes up its get fucked, at it’s current placement its killing flareless left and right, at this point if it need to go up it better goes up with every single addition it has in the service of Ilmavoimat before it can go up again.
That or just remove this shit altogether and give Sweden J35Ö at 11.0 because XS is in a very stupid place right now.
idk about this. this plane can turn sure but it cant really dogfight like F-5 or have dogfight capable gun like F-5. it’s saving grace is 6 9J and even then it’s a very dodgeable missile in the grand scheme of things.
That said, this plane can definitely go up to 10.7, of course with many of it’s missing equipment added.