Yeah i was just saying people can fudge the numbers as they both will appear on your stats as Air kills in the end.
I agree that it should be 10.7 same as the moving the mig21 Smt and co back up to 10.7. And J7D to 11.0
But i wont hold my breath. As the Gaijinetrics for adjusting BRs eludes me
The J35XS is the best jet? Please. The MiG 21, yes. The stone David used against Goliath, yes. The Saab? Far from it.
technically speaking K/D wise it is the best at 10.3, however the SMT, It and the J7D all need to shift back up in BR
J35XS is easily in the running at 10.3 for best jet alongside specifically the MiG-21SMT and the F-8U
Whatever you say, mate. I personally despise that thing, but then again, you and I seem to disagree on what makes an OP plane.
J35XS provides a competitive enough FM with tricks up its sleeve (obvious one circle/aoa advantage) while also providing 6 competitive missiles in a BR where you are lucky to get 4 of equivalent tier missiles, none the less 6. The real only downsides to the plane are energy retention in turns (so don’t pull hard early game, ramp up aggression as game goes on) and the low flare count, but I’ve played FLARELESS jets at the BR and still did decent so this thing is not going to have issues if you use them correctly and play smart.
6 AIM 9Js are not the pinnacle of a great aircraft. I would understand if it were actually good missiles like Magic 1s or PL 5s, but AIM 9Js? I swear you only disagree with me just to be a contrarian. The J35XS is the worst jet I had the displeasure of using, and the only reason I’m glad I played Sweden is so I never have to touch that thing again.
The only thing the Saab is good at is taking out Strike Aircrafts because I’ve defeated plenty of Su-17s and 22s last year. The rocket nerfs destroyed the only thing it was good at: destroying bases.
6 9J is incredibly strong for 10.3. You often face flareless jets in downtiers who are not dodging this missile.
I used the Mirage 5BA at the same BR, 10.3, recently, and the Mirage 5BA shares all the same issues of the J35 regarding its FM (low energy retention when turning, takes a long time to gain speed again) AND it only has TWO 9Js instead of the SIX the J35 has, and yet I still did REALLY well with it.
You got that wrong. At 9.3 all you are facing is 10.3s, not the other way around.
What?
I assure you , I played 20 games in the J35XS and non were 9.3. The fact that we just got a sale and J-7D/21Bis dominated the MM does not give the 35XS it down tier.
Exactly, they confuse “I’m always getting uptiers” with “that jet is always getting downtiers”
I played 10.3 prior to sales and got almost nothing BUT downtiers. Like anything regarding matchmaking, it ebbs and flows.
I have 92 battles and 129 elims with that thing (79 deaths). I think I know how well that jet works a bit more than obvious parroting from YouTubers and Old Wiki. It sucked, it couldn’t keep its energy to speed for shite, and the only thing that makes it “good” is being a missile boat with laughable missiles. At least the J-7D has good missiles and a lot of countermeasures. The only reason why the Saab should go up is because Gaijin hates Sweden.
Yeah as of now it just full up tier or at least 11.0 is guarantee. And I feel like it gonna be so for a while , sale and all that. I spam a good bit of the 35XS and I would say it is strong for 10.3 but as of now the MM is saving it BR placement. I don’t think moving it up 10.7 would be a great idea considering it CM count but that just me , could use some decompression. And it sitting with F5C/J-7D just doesn’t make sense. Maybe after sale a bit MM will stabilize and it will get it down tier
Yeah, that’s not what I’m doing.
Have you actually played it, or are you making assumptions based on paper stats?
I have played the J35A, which has its main FM difference being the weaker engine…so I can extrapolate the performance difference. I have also played the mirage 5BA as I just said earlier, which is basically the same niche but with 2 missiles instead of 6 with the tradeoff of having more countermeasures…and I’m good enough at the game to make these assessments…
That wasn’t the question.
Clearly you and I will not agree. I believe it is absolutely dreadful with terrible energy retention, dreadful acceleration, and no countermeasures. You like it because you do. I still think it’s better off at 10.3