But you get constant upteir to 14.0 because the large majority is playing 14.0 Aircraft
It’s still not a 14.0 aircraft so adding them to the comparison is laughable, and funnily enough doesn’t even help your point because you would still be wrong in that no half the roster does not have 300+CMs
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Possibly. Currently trying to figure out if regular production spec ones have it or if it was just a modification for one prototype.
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I think C-1 is likely just refers to first production lot and not independent modification, tho I don’t have anything to back it
Same, honestly. There are other mentioned docs in it which mention ESM stuff using an unspecified FLIR (Literally just the J/AAQ-2, as the F-2 has no other FLIRs). Which should say that it has IR tracking regardless, but… There is a doc talking about a different IR device in the paper, and its unclear what its referring to, as outside of the listing of the document we have basically no other word on it. WIth neither ATLA or TRDI having put out anything on such an IR sensor.
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Does it says this different device is tested on F-2 specifically or just mentioned?
Becasue if second it might be referring to J/AAQ-1 from U-125A
Also, when did reports you have were written? I found this report FY2004 Policy Evaluation Report (Ex-Post Project Evaluation). With my very limited understandding of japanese and help from deepseek (so take futher information with bag of salt) we came to conclusion it talks specifically about production spec FLIR and as far as I understand prototype was only used for ground-based testing and tests from ~2001 was already done with production speced model
Tho in this report there is nothing specifically on air-to-air intercept
There are people here who are critical of Japan. Please criticize the imaginary ASM in the same way ツ
- How being critical of a country correlates with anything about plane itself
- I see that you have raised a lot of concerns about possible F-2 weapon loadouts, but it would be nice if instead of pointlessly arguing with people, you brought some evidence to support your concerns.
He is an American boy who criticizes the Soviet Union and EFT, but that is off topic, so he said that he was criticizing Japan as a matter of fact. So, what you’re trying to say is this. Blah
It’s so strong that it’s finally here after more than a year! It’s the F-2! Yes, a year ago was enough xD
No. I’m pointing out that complaining about CM count on the F-2 (once it gets the 120 the devs are already aware it is supposed to be and going to be fixed according to the dev stream) is just coping because 120 single deploy is essentially the same or better number of uses as every aircraft at its BR unless it has BOL pods, which 1.)are not as widespread as they should be and 2.) are not as effective as they should be.
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Yep, yet another pointless discussion. Let’s not go any further.
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As far as I know there is no differences between different sizes of chaff CM. Also, because of how 9M/AAM-3 work, there is no difference which size of flare you use. So, there is 2 variants when big CM is better than BOL:
- You have a really hot engine and need to dodge 9L from behind.
- You’re trying to dodge R-73/MM2/Pl-5/8. But from ~1.5 km it’s death in about 95% of cases no matter what you are doing.
In the end, I wouldn’t say that BOLs are “dogshit”. If you have choice, than it’s slightly better to use BOL/small CM as chaff and big CM as flares, but it’s not THAT different
I know only about this photo of F-15J with AIM-120 on it. Suppose to be AIM-120B
Spoiler
We know that F-15J has compatible with AIM-120 wing pylons (even Gaijin accepted it), so technically they can use modern AIM-120. But as far as I know, they decided to buy AIM-120C-7/8 and even D-3 for their F-35s, not for F-15J
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But BOL flares really ARE bad. They are gone within second and they don’t fire away from your plane. Against FOV IRCCM, they really are much worse than normal CMs. They also barely help in close range dogfights where you need the flares to attract the missile away from you because you don’t have the speed to turn away yourself.
As for BOL chaff, it’s basically the same as any other chaff, no issues there.
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There’s also a mention of Japan already having AIM-120C-5 in inventory in one of the DSCA news releases about Japan buying AIM-120C-7
So with this alongside the known AMRAAM compatibility, maybe the F-15J(M) AIM-120C-5 report could be remade.
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I’d rather if they buffed the AAM-4 to its actual performance, not a sidegrade AIM-120A. :sob: Something needs to happen, because Japan is now the only nation without 14.0 plane? Not to mention there isn’t really anything that could be added now until the F-35, which we are still eons away from.
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Again, pretty much nothing can help against FoV missile from right distance and in right time.
Not really. I can remember few situations where I was dogfighting on gripen against Su-27 and just spammed flares against their R-73. They missed. Whole point of BOL is that you can spam them A LOT.
You mean worse firing envelope for essentially its current range?
Or AAM-4B which again, is essentially the same range(/slightly more for worse time to target due to lofting) and a better seeker.