Mitsubishi F-2

EFT has 384 pops, rafale has 108 pops. Su-30 has 98, J-10A has 72. But they have mix of small and big calibres (or full big). 120 small pops looks ok. No more, but no less

F-15s have 120 pops (240 CMs) as well, it’s enough.

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Everyone complains about the F-2 only having 4x AAM-4, but I’ve been playing my F-15J(M) just like that since I got it.

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I’ve gotten a lot more mileage out of 8x AIM-120A or 4x AAM-4 + 4x AIM-120A loadout in ARB compared to the 4x AAM-3 + 4x AAM-4 loadout, which is generally better for GRB given the AAM-3s ability to sneak up on planes.

Gomen ne Nagi-chan.

Made a report regarding the models for the Pylons and Rails.

[DEV] F-2A Pylons Model Issue

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That’s entirely subjective and it depends on what you call a suitable loadout, not everyone plays like you, I for one mainly use full fox 3s with good success, have loadouts with 6x fox 3s being 4x AAM-4s 2x 120s and 2x AAM-3s or the one with 7 fox 3s and a single AAM-3, everyone’s playstyle is different. I simply stated that the F-2 having only 4x fox 3s even if they were AAM-4Bs, no matter how good they’d be, it does not compare to machine taking double (F-15s) and nearly triple (F-18s) their fox 3 loads, specially with the 120C on the way and the F-15Es which are able to get significantly more range out of them thanks to their speed, depending on the map I usually am flying at mach 1.55 to mach 1.7 by the time I’m firing 120s in my 15E/I

Yes, I do understand that the 6x ARH loadout is generally better, but I like to keep a certain authenticity when playing games.

Could JASDF put AMRAAMs on the wing pylons? Totally. Do they do it? No.

And trust me, I tried to find a picture of a Japanese F-15 with AMRAAMs on the wing pylons just so that I could put them there too, but I couldn’t find any.

I don’t think a single one of us expected the F-2 to be a BVR machine like these. Even the F-15JM is already falling behind in that department due to the weaker engines compared to F-15E, Typhoons and Rafale.

The F-2 isn’t designed to climb high and attack enemy fighters head-on. I made my peace with this (and only 4x ARH missiles) even before the F-2 was revealed. But I was hoping that Gaijin would give it something to be worthy of 14.0 BR.

Actually, our loadout of 4 AAM-4 and 4 AIM-120 on F-15J(M) is pretty much ahistorical. Yes, AIM-120s were tested, but usual loadout of F-15J is 4 AAM-4/4B + 4 AAM-3/5. If we take this into account, A2A capabilities of F-2 are same as on F-15J! Except lacking of HMD, of course.

I mean, there is no sence in making support fighter with better A2A capabilities. Of course, in the game, this doesn’t really matter. More missiles (even if they are semi-historical) is better than less. That’s like… Another argument for 4+4 loadout on F-2

But there is a question. Why Japan decided to stuck with only 4 missiles? Better “quality”? But are these THAT better, so you can cut number of you missiles to a half?

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Same lol.

But also, the people looking forward to and being excited about the F-2 want a dogfighter. Is that meta in top tier air RB? No, but it’s fun and something Japan doesn’t really have at top tier. F-16AJ exists but it’s stuck with no ARH missiles and no IRCCM IR missiles.

The F-2 will be great for us players that enjoy a good dogfight and have the modern standards minus the HMD (which doesn’t really matter in dogfights anyway thanks to vertical ACM)

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I don’t want to devalue your guys’ efforts to find evidence that 6x ARH is possible on the F-2, you have my full support, but I honestly believe most of us were expecting 4x ARH anyway.

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Tbf you’re not gonna find an image, considering they only test fired them once, from the body mounts, of which itself there’s only like 2 images of.

Fun fact though, on technically compatible. Technically gaijn could give the F-15J AMRAAMs. As it is in fact compatible as we have a fairly late early model with the PSP radar (like, our F-15J is from after J-MSIP started being rolled out, lmao).

Well, according to gaijin, the psp radar doesn’t have tws, only raid (even though it had tws irl)

A guy shared a picture of the amraam compatible rails of the F-15JM when the advanced fox 3s came, they were definitely present on the wings as well, unfortunately I don’t have the specific picture but it was probably the reason gaijin added it thanks to his report

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We really don’t know at this point, Japan has been ordering amraams for both their F-35s and F-15s, like I said there was a picture reported to gaijin showing amraam compatible pylons on the wings of the F-15J, maybe it was still just a test at the time but with their ongoing efforts to upgrade their Eagles to the JSI, could be possible that these pylons are making their way into service, there are also rumors about the F-2 receiving amraam compatibility but still unconfirmed, would be cool to see it eventually though

I’m not crazy right

J/AAQ-2 has an A2A function similar to an IRST, correct?

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F-2 had BOL?

Sorry, miss type. I meant that the F-2A is meant to have 120 CM but hasnt been buffed yet on the dev and everyother tech tree has aircraft with expanded flare modules(BOL).

not USSR, and US only has it on one mediocre jet, Israel doesnt have it at all

Which is equivalent to an F-15, since they deploy 1 at a time. What’s your point?