the ACM is pretty buggy atm, plus it’s purely vertical.
Not having a HMD is a MASSIVE downside.
It also accelerates slower, meaning you’re not gonna get to high altitudes to do BVR before other people are already launching at you.
The F-16C is fine at 13.7, and the F-2A isn’t 14.0 material. As it is, the F-2A is definitely one of the best 13.7s, and can easily compete at 14.0. But simply due to the lack of HMD, the F-2A isn’t 14.0 material.
im not asking for the F-16 to go down or for F-2 to go up, because 13.3 F-16C is dumb and youve made solid points for F-2 not being 14.0 material, though the F18C with no HMD or -ESA does exist
and like i said, although the vertical ACM makes it not as bad, the HMD thing is still a tradeoff for the FM
Yeahhhhh, I dunno what to do with the OG Finnish Hornet, having 10 AMRAAMs is bonkers for 13.7, but it’s also slow and has no HMD at 14.0…
But literally every other Fox-3 Hornet has HMD, so, I dunno.
While this is true IRL, TWS ESA doesn’t really help all that much with requiring locks from notches in game.
While true, it basically forces a search where they are nearly instantly, in a notch it will not update their information, and it only looks for areas within 1 kilometer of the last location, at mach you’re looking at them having to stay in a notch for only about 3 seconds before it will fail to capture them, as opposed to normal TWS having a timeout of 4-6 seconds. (Technically the timeout is 8 seconds for the J/APG-2’s ESA TWS, which is quite generous, but they’d have to stay within it’s area during that time).
Also, for some reason, the J/APG-2, in addition to having an easier notch gate, actually has slightly less accurate distance and larger doppler filter widths then say a AN/APG-63V(1).
Their search pattern should not make them more susceptible to notching. Radars like the J/APG-2 still have beam taper modulation, which helps with beamforming to maintain tight track patterns while large search areas.
How peculiar.
I have to disagree here. Not having a HMD is very minor given the excellent radar.
Not sure what issues others are having but for me the F-2 radar has been bug free and very effective. I’ve been casually locking onto enemy Fox 3s and taking them down while switching back to main target through just TWS. In comparison, the F-15J(M)'s radar is frustrating to use and now feels too slow, which is telling as the APG-63(V)1 is a good radar set.
Personally, I think F-2 is a strong 13.7 but a weak 14.0, but ultimately could go either BR. I’m sure if it gets the AAM-4B it would get moved up in the future, especially if the F-15J(M) doesn’t get it for balance reasons (keeping something at 13.7 that is).
I don’t see why the F-15jm would not get AAM-4B if anything its the more future proof aircraft compared to F-2. i would argue giving the F-2 better missiles will just move its BR up against equally as good or better missiles and more of them on better platforms. only thing F-15JM doesn’t have over F-2 is the radar or pure dogfighting but its not as big of an issue. and once F-15JSI is out it will completely outclass F-2 besides CAS. i would say the F-2 would be the aircraft to stay at 13.7 while F-15JM moves up.l
I havent had an issue with ACM + i have dealt with not having an HMD
Just to make the current F-2 as being unique and if AAM-4B do end up being very hard to defeat via notching/multipathing then they’d be a good answer to help F-2s BVR and make it a deadly aircraft to go against.
Realistically speaking they’re going to add another F-15 for AAM-5 and possible AAM-4B as they really don’t want to create gaps in BRs by moving things up. Perhaps they’ll add another F-2 for AAM-5 as well for the same reason.
It honestly hurts my soul every time someone reminds me the F-2A doesn’t have an HMD. Guess all we can do is sit tight and hope the Thai Gripen E or F-16 eMLU comes to save my ass.
This video is a pretty nice summary of F-2:
F15jsi is fine too, 18 arh if I’m not wrong.
Not quite true.
I wish they made the Aim-7P more widely available for other aircraft that support the platform, AIM-7M is Pain at 13.0 especially when R27ER has IOG+DL even at 12.3
(yes the F2A ADTW would also greatly benefit from Aim-7P)
As off now is expected: EPAWSS, JASSM(-ER), newer AIM-120s (maybe even D-3) and AESA Radar iirc. What else could be coming is either still up in air or speculation
Hope they upgrade the engine, but I’ve heard that Japan has a tight budget.
I wouldn’t expect many upgrades since the F-35s are meant to replace the F-2s, also don’t forget about their current fighter program with Italy and UK.
That is why this control is my friend:
never had 7P’s sorry