Kikka never had guns mounted yet has them IRL
R2Y2 V2 and V3 were never built, the F-16AJ never existed like it does in wt, and yet you are here to complain about the Yak141
That is truly ignorant
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Why argue with each other? The hypocrisy lies with Gaijin—they cherry-pick history to fit their narrative.
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So, if you have some documents with/or photos - just send them to Gaijin! Usually people just find some unreliable sources that tell smth these people want to hear and try to argue with them. Gaijin can change vehicles, but they need like 150% proves
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They don’t,
There are different standarts for prototype / paper vehicles than for production ones that entered service.
But it is important to make that distinction.
But within the paper planes they are consistent.
and they are also consistent with production aircraft.
Problems only arise when you try to compare apples to oranges
If Gaijin truly applies ‘consistent standards,’ why do we see such glaring discrepancies in performance modeling?
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Selective Realism – If prototype/paper vehicles are held to different standards, why do some get overly generous estimations while others are artificially nerfed? This isn’t about “apples vs. oranges”—it’s about cherry-picking data to fit biases.
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Moving Goalposts – The moment a vehicle underperforms historically, Gaijin dismisses it as “game balance.” But when it’s overpowered, suddenly “historical documents” are absolute. That’s not consistency—that’s hypocrisy.
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The reason might be that some vehicles have more detailed specifications than others.
I can’t say anything concrete tho because you didn’t list any examples and ontop of that my knowledge about tanks is rather limited.
Every nation’s vehicles underperform in some way or another be it the EF with its poorly working radar or the Mig29 with an absolutely butchered flight model
Pointing your finger at others and crying about bias just makes that part of the community dislike you, simply because you didn’t know better.
With prototypes Gaijin has magical words “the form in which it was most likely adopted”. And using these words they can add or remove anything they want.
Yes so they added Guns to the Kikka
and an IRST to the Yak141 which was in service on all Russian fighters at the time
But at the same time didn’t give the Yak141 all the armament it was planned to have.
The underlying problem of this discussion isn’t how or what they implement to paper vehicles but comparing them to production vehicles
Pointing out bias isn’t ‘whining’—it’s holding devs accountable. The community should demand fairness, not excuse double standards because ‘everyone has problems. If Gaijin applied the same scrutiny to all nations (e.g., requiring equal proof for armor values, flight models, or reload rates), no one would complain. But when certain trees consistently get ‘benefit of the doubt’ while others face hyper-skepticism, calling it out isn’t ‘toxicity’—it’s basic criticism. Fine, I won’t waste time arguing with those who pretend not to see the truth. But just know this—Gaijin’s hypocrisy is obvious to anyone who actually looks.
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Did already many times, they just ignored it
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It didn’t get all the weapon because of balance reasons. I was just pointing, that Gaijin can implement prototypes in any way they want.
But even if we want to compare just service planes, there is A LOT of problems with Gaijins hypocrisy. All F-5s got flares because “it’s possible to install them”. Why not all F-104s got flares then (ROC F-104G doesn’t have them even when it has them in reality!)? Why french F-100D is stuck with AIM-9B, while american one can carry AIM-9E? Why Jaguars or J32A got chaff pod, while T-2/F-1 didn’t? And so on and so on.
And there is a lot of problems with Gaijins transparency. We don’t know what exactly they use to set stats of their vehicles
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:Nerd emoji: Yak-141 is not even real name of it
Just ignored? Sometimes they really just ignore, and that’s a problem we can’t fix, unfortunately. But more often it’s just a bad bugreport
What do you want me to use
Yak-41,
Freestyle or
Yak-41 Freestyle?
Maybe even
Яковлев Як-141or
Яковлев Як-41
Guys, stop making a circus. Even a complete idiot can see that the reason is not the gaijin’s bias towards RU vehicles. The key problem is their principle of balancing by win rate. It follows from this that the most popular nation of the USSR and the overwhelming majority there are beer gamers who are not able to make 1 K\D. Because of this, we see idiotic decisions such as double pylons on the Su-27, X-38, Pantsir and many other things that in the hands of skilled players make dirt, but globally the win rate was crap and remains so because of the beer masses. Stop doing this bullshit.
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Yep, i even made a bug report and others included further information, and to our amaze… it once again got ignored
Just send the link to the report
Took them 2 years to fix the type 10s tracks xD
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