Missile counter Missile method is a terrible mechanic for the game

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I mean in all fairness when the capabilities of every missile in the world is basically unknown to everyone but like three people on the planet, claiming you have the largest No escape Zone and the maximum lethality it a bit of a hollow title, since you and nobody else can or is going to back that up or disprove it unless things really hit the fan. You know what I mean we can all say we have the best hand at the poker table but it doesn’t mean anything until the cards are on the table.

how does someone barely break even on by far the best 13.3 that comes spaded from the get go

Not only proving that the su30 doesnt require skill to play but also being the stereotypical su30 main (calling everything a skill issue) is crazy

Try playing the f16cm pobit. It has 6 missiles. The su30 has over 12. You physically cannot win any encounter with a su30 if they arent entirely distracted because they will overwhelm all your missiles and send you back to the hangar. It is literally impossible to play and takes “balanced, skill based gameplay” off the table

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skill issue not knowing when to shoot the skill is in the pilot not the jet SU30 can only have 2 active radar missiles that it helps guide while it does have 4 missiles to counter close range a f16AM premium for example can easily get off the better shot if its a 10KM range since it does have HMD I believe they have the better radar RWR , MAWS (depending on missile kit) and turn so yes people act like SU30 premiums are a villain but if they were very good then my F18 C early wouldn’t be able to get a single kill using SARH missiles skill issues folks

some people fail to realize SU30 premiums have 6 ARH or SARH depending on missile kit therefore it is impossible on any SU30 premium to pull up and try to shot down a top down fox3 it wont move fast enough to get a good lock


this is practically the bare minimum any genuinely skilled player should be doing in the su30mk premiums.

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you are getting kills on su30mk premiums because something like 90-95% of them genuinely have no clue how to pilot a prop, much less a plane with fox 3/R27ER

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Carries 6 77s, which can be substituted for ERs or 2 ETs. 77s beat aim-120s in any fight within 20km.

Only a feature on certain F-16AMs, the F-16I and 14.3 F-16s. Also not very useful in ARB.

You’re negative in the hornet.

Do people just forgot 77s can be launched at any angle and that you have HMD to do so?

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that’s the point this whole thread is about why I think players SHOULD McM if nessary even in something weaker like f16 if nessary it gives a slight advantage when used correctly not an advantage when the player shots an odd angle hard to McM and notch so that player would know when to shoot

I don’t use Su30 like how other players would tell me or advise me to use it because all I’m Trina do in it is grind to j10 and j15T any skilled player would also be using McM and not whine about it

r77s can be launched at alot of angle but hit at few

What?

“Any skilled player would rely on the unskilled unbalanced mechanic instead of pointing out how unfair it is”

And you’re still barely breaking even despite using it btw.

F-16s are in a disadvantage when using MCM because you’re wasting limited missiles just to counter one of their 12 missiles. But I suppose that’s hard to comprehend when you never played F-16s.

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you could “just notch bro”

and i do, which is reflected by my performance being much higher than yours?

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and i’m sure you are the best authority on what skilled players should be saying, given your “outstanding” performance in it?
MCM as a mechanic is terrible and promotes zero skill gameplay, and any player who has learned how to effectively defend missiles complains about it. It’s pretty much a get out of jail free card for making critical positioning/defensive errors, and should not exist.

There is no angle where you can’t MCM a counter launch. Also, use English.

You are NOT the person to be saying this when you are basically failing your way to top tier

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“there is not angle where you can’t MCM” what a crazy statement and you guys must stat shame for a average K/D 1 and close to 1 unless a player is unaware they should be able to notch anything an no i cant notch everything but i can easily notch over 20Km shoots just had to watch out for IOG improvement and skill are not the same but both are using everything to your advantage to win McM plus notching even in a horrible loudout like aim7Ps and aim9Ls gives a massive advantage those who don’t use it are just making the game harder for themselves

if real pilots could McM would they just use “skill” and notch or be smart and use everything littarelly everything to win I’m not saying this is realistic but if I can shot down a missile from a bus like su30sm or f18E not being able to notch in time then thats the best option they arent unkillable they are just a really fast bus

Only your MKK is around 1. Every other vehicle is negative. Your stats are so bad you have to hide them on St*tshark.

20km notching is like the bare minimum.

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