The sets are very similar so it’s possible the modification just slipped under the… radar. Manuals are also not always kept up-to-date with every modification, at least that’s what I’ve found.
It also makes no sense to me why they USN would bother putting in a decades old radar that was almost certainly no longer being produced when they received the F-5Es.
Similar? How?
One is a poor short range radar with neither look-down capability nor IFF, the other a quite powerful PD radar with TWS and even GMTI modes.
Also, your source is just some text, and proves nothing. (I’d gladly be proven wrong, btw…)
This is the full source: Aircraft Report: Adversarial F-5 Tigers
The APG-69 doesn’t have GMTI. Doesn’t even have modes for air-to-ground weapons delivery. In reality it only had ground mapping.
Also, does the manual state APQ-159 or APQ-153?
Key Aero is a published magazine, so they do accept them as a source, and there are other sources out there saying similar things so it’s possible that’s the reason they used the APG-69.
The dev-server thread is now in the Machinery of war category and open again:
Just got info from Smin, and he says that publication is considered 3rd party at best, and not considered a reliable source… = /
I mean, the hunter F58A in the TT really isn’t a thing is it?
it’s also 9.3 while being better than the F6 for britain?
The British one gets sraams
SRAAMS are trash. And they’ll be that way until Gaijin un-nerfs their flight characteristics.
The mirage IIIS C.70 without at least AIM-9P-3s and the F-5E without P-4s or P-5s sadden me 😞
Have you used sraams¿ xD
they twizzle out and explode past 700 meters in any launch bar a direct dive, in which case they may reach up to about 900 meters.
They are a useless missile and two aim9E’s is substantially better at a lower BR, while also having a CCIP for bombs, and and RWR whilst retaining all the same flight charactaristics.
hell i actually think its engines better as RN the stock F58A 1971, puts out the same thrust as the spaded F6.
Yeah the F5 at least is an F5E, the Mirage could of got its p-5 equivelants and been a proper menace.
ah well itll suck with 9Bs
F.6 is impossible to balance generally.
The 9.0/9.3 Hunters deserve a drop by 0.3 in Br over all but the F.6 is very hard to balance.
The issue is not the range of the SRAAM but the ability of Hunter F.6 to bring them to efficient range if it drops just a little bit in Br.
You’re saying its hard to balance while there are better F6 modelss sitting at 9.3 while the british one sits at 9.7? xD
And aim9E’s arent better? how ?
At 9.7 there are a plethora of super sonics and and or faster / better planes at your BR and even lower.
etc etc
the list goes on, the hunter F6 for britain should of moved to 9.3 long ago . alongside the F6 for france when it was added, the hunter F58A, is a non plane any ways, but as it is in game, it should be 9,7 along side the britihs F6 not bellow it
You ignored my point entirely going an about higher tier aircraft which are not the issue for balancing.
Higher tier ?? every single plane I listed here is the same BR or lower than the hunter F6 in the british tree??
The hunter F6 for the british objectively is worse than the F58A (due to them being identical bar the 58A has RWR, and ofc CCIP for bombs, with 2 aim9E’s) yet sits at a higher BR?
the hunter F6 for france is on par with the F6 for britain as both have completely useless missiles. Though it has a warrant for 9.3 due to its ground attack being non existent.
So where at all have I talked about higher tier air craft? the F58A and all other F6 models which are actually F6’s should be the same BR’s.
The SRAAMS have been a non argument for the british F6 for years now.
just to clarify, you’re talking about the 9.3 hunters need a drop-
the 9.3 hunters are the F6 model
the J34 or whatever it is in sweden is not an F6 and has a worse engine last i checked. Now this thread is about the mirage IIIS C.70
J-34 IIRC is the only Mk.4 Hunter in the game.
The others, the F-58A and the French F.6 are actually at the right BR at 9.3
The British Hunters need to go down to 9.3 and 8.7 respectively. The F1 is barely better than a Mig-15. Not to mention straight up worse than the Mig-17 in every way except straight line speed, which is only marginally faster by like 30km/h. Moving the F.1 down will also mean that the Venom and Vampire both need to go down as well, Venom to 8.3 and Vampire to 7.7 since it isn’t faster than anything it can face at 7.7 (never mind the fact that the Swedish Vampires are superior to the British Vampire in every way at the exact same BR.) lol
Now for me to add my 0.02c for the Mirage IIIS.
Now all I can do is wait for when the South African Mirages come to the British tree to give the British tree some actual competent planes at the 10.0 - 11.0 range with South Africa’s Mirage F1CZ, Mirage IIICZ and the Atlas Cheetah D model. Cheetah D will probably be a 12.3 aircraft since it carried Python 3s and R-Darters.
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You still ignored my point. Perhaps I worded it badly.
At the end of the day Hunter F.6 has to suffer because of the SRAAMs. If they are used correctly they are to much for most people in a dogfight.
High tier as in being at the same Br ir higher.
Sadly we have to take into account 8.7 or in case of a changed Br 8.3 as well.
Other aircraft are also held back due to their missiles.
It is one reason why I thonk Mirage IIIS C.70 whould either keep AIM-9E or receive P5. Anything in between will only increase the Br beyond reason for relatively little gain.
Yeah I wasn’t sure if it was even a F6 model but did state it is objectively worse than all the F6’s in game.
They could add the australian vampire as one for that BR though and move teh others down.
Id absolutely love to see stuff like that in the tree tbh man would give it some variation in more BR’s.
He says as he literally ignores every other point.
Okay, so lets look at the fact **you can barely get within closing distance to use a SRAAM as most if not every plane at your BR can out run you. **
then combine that with the fact vastly superior platforms in stuff like I listed are a lower BR. The F6 for britain sits far too high.
aim9E’s on the 9.3 versions of hunter F6 are far better and more reliable missiles than SRAAMS.
Can I ask something here, have you actually used a sraam?
cause as they are in game now, you can barely use them in dogfights due to the fact they spin out at lower launch speeds .
They dont have any range at all literally about 1km in a hard dive when the person doesn’t move at all.
and in an actual effective match about 700 meters.
Ah yeah so its fine for better versions of the hunter F6 to sit at lower Br’s ???
The Aim9E equiped F58A will be substantially more effective.
Hell you’ve got a j35 draken a lower Br than the F6 for britain.
At this point what you’re telling me is the british hunter with worse missiles should be a higher BR than every other hunter (bar the F58 Squadron) due to said bad missiles xD , it makes zero sense what you’re telling me man.
