People already explained that S530F is useless missile for anything as long as enemy can press countermesures button.
Next onto radar, i do own F1C200 btw,
The radar after changes aint really that special, yes, due to french using brain and game not modelling reliability issues and MTI suffering from sidelobes, it can “look up” in mti too.
But once you lock someone and they are above, its pulse so one chaff, and lock is gone. Highly unrealistic for any pulse radar of era but whatever.
Then RWR… that thing is on level of SPO-10 - useless.
Gunsight, even though it should be literally radar guided sight, not even gyro as they had computation calculating with target movement, it doesnt have it. Its just basic gunsight flying all over the place.
Then performance of plane itself. Its fast and gets decent ITR. Thats it.
Its accel is worse than comparable jets, its BFM performance is worse than all 11.7 mig23s, worse than all slatted phantoms.
Its LD/SD, well we know already, due to S530F working like trash, means nothing.
On the other hand, PD F4s have incredible LD/SD with 7F, 23 is a bit limited but if you fly it at atleast some altitude, you have very good LD/SDwithextremely good fox1 for short-medium range.
So finally, we are getting to magic IIs, literally ONLY two things making that thing viable in 11.7-12.0 bracket. Without them, its not even 11.0 plane. (yes, same as Mirage IIIE but i already had a rant about that and it should have stayed where it was, 11.0 is f**ng insane).
So you have 2 good all aspect missiles with limited range. That are “unflarable” only up close from behind and platform speed with ITR.
Unless gaijin balance team pulls heads out of their A****, it CANT be 12.0 because 12.0 faces stupidly unbalanced matchup 3 brackets out of 4. Unlike 11.7 which gets highly competetive once out of 4 and then absolute top 2 out of 4, being on the bottom only once per whole rotation, whoever designed new bracket rotation should be kicked out for absolute incompetence.
F1 doesnt have any BVR capability or missile count to actually fight against 12.0+ so often.
mirage f1 is a very reliable plane at that br, its either average or good in every category, only being outdone by the m2ks5 which is undertiered and should be same br as f16a
It’s about now I wish there was a missile it could get somewhere between the Magic 1 and Magic 2 (cause the Magic 2 is just that good). Might be easier to balance that way.
If gaijin wasnt sitting on its ears, they could have implemented chaff filtering for S530F years ago.
Already R530EM was capable of filtering chaff.
Chaffing off pulse radar lock in high aspect, high closure scenarios is super unrealistic too.
Range gate will make sure they will get filtered out. Before they can bloom out and actually make radar reflection, they are long gone from range gate of radar and cant affect it.
Magic 1, working S530F and you get perfect 11.7 F1.
Or they could change premium F1 for Greek one, or Equadorian F1 that can carry two pythons under wing on outer pylons and then magics on tips. Leave Magic I and give it non IRCCM python.
Or greek one at 11.3 with 4x 9J with same pylon layout as Ecuadorian.
This would probably end up being another F-4F AIM-9J situation of semi-historical, and it would probably be the easiest as well. Some users did put AIM-9s on their F1s, like you mentioned, but giving them to the French ones is semi-historical at best.
Greek F1 with 4x 9J/P is fully historical layout. Unlike 9J F4F.
IIRC they had P2 and P4s (P4s in WT are wrong as of now, they have wrong engine)
We already have premiums in tech trees from different nations - 21bison is one for example, A5C another.
Yeah I mentioned that in the post I linked. It would be semi-historical though, because this is concerning the French Mirages, which never mounted Sidewinders as far as I know.
Considering they butchered IIIE in sims even more with BR changes… talk is pointless.
How TF is it only .3 below MLD??? How is it ABOVE SMT or MF???
HOW IS IT ABOVE F-8E.
How is J-7E II same BR??? 3C should sit at 10.0 and IIIE at best 10.3. Its significantly heavier than IIIC and gains basically ONLY flares. While being inferior in flight performance to basically every single MiG in its BR range, lets not even count F-4E which is lower with way better armament and better flight perfomance and RWR.
Shahak without even magics sits at 10.3 in sims. Its absurd. Kfir is same BR as mirage IIIE… already kfir is too high. Bis with all aspects sits at same BR. 23M with all aspects sits at same br with better radar and more missiles. Already Kfir which is better than any mirage III is too high, yet IIIE shares BR with it.
