your argument was “I’ve done this both with the Su-27 and Mirage 4000, and most of the time you dodge the missiles just fine, no splash damage gets you.” and it isn’t an argument and points to nothing if i have lived something different it is logic to think why.
And that is why i told you this doesn’t usually happen in my experience. Maybe this happens to you currently but not to me. If everybody can launch a game and somebody can’t that doesn’t mean the person who can’t have anything to do with this. This is pure logic, just because you doesn’t experience something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exists.
No because both of them have what HMD and SRC PD as i stated before yes it is a special plane but that weakness doesn’t have to affect it to such extent.
F16 AM has HMD and is better with it i don’t get your point, because it has it and you don’t use it doesn’t mean nobody will use it. That is all !
No this is pure illogic, taking the same route every match and doing the same thing is a pure lack of creativity, that is what is wrong IMO of this type of gameplay, by thinking like that everybody will do the same 24/7 and the meta will always be the same, this is just too limited IMO.
“but I think if you’d actually learnt to play those two” and that is supposedf to not be offensive yeah not nice dude think of a better way to say thing you really aren’t nice.
Well then they just have to fly at Stratosphere level and you won’t catch them, the ennemy will launch waves of attacks and sometime you will eventually lose.
This is just adaptation to lack of tools. This is just fighting unfair fights.
What point there is no point of course M4K is close range and that is his weakness due to the fact that you CANT close that gap if they play normally.
I JUST SAID IT WASN’T CLEAR WHAT CAN I SAY MORE WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO TELL YOU ???
Then why is it in the game go on find something i put things i even give you PROOF that it was built in the intent to be CAS/Multirole and you just say nothing. Also some F16 in the belgian army were made to replace Mirage5 that were used as multirole bombers/CAP so that is why the lack of FOX1.
No the Mirage 4000 was not implemented in the idea to be a multirole bomber, it was just fitted to what was already in game and what was best at that time (In real life), that is why it has such poor bombs and Ground Pound Capabilities, AS30L were already present on M2K same as BGL1000 and same as other bombs and rockets, notice how the missiles are on the right, like fighters in the game.
Yes it is a multirole that is undeniable but in game it is not implemented as a multirole oriented aircraft, there is very little of them in game.
It was never implemented to begin with, also the f16a is no a “multirol bomber” it a multirol fighter, it is based on a fighter frame not on a bomber frame, and the reason why it doesnt have fox ones is because they are f16a which doesnt have such capabilities, later on these same aircraft were upgrated to the AM.
Btw the mirage 4000 was heavily advertised for its air to ground capabilities, some souces even show that it was intended to use up to 9 laser guided bombs.
The one in game use a proposed variant, it has loadouts that the real one couldnt even use, like the 530d, btw the in game it is clearely meant as a multirol aircraft.
In game it keeps having a powerful air to ground loadout, far better than the one on the f16a.
The word Implement means to add something to the game.What are you on about 530D ???
I disagree totally the BGL-1000 is the only usable ordinance. The as30 are wayy too weak and slow and are laser guided unlike the AGM-65 from the F16
You need to stop to just want to purely disagree, over a few messages i accepted some of your facts but you literally did nothing but argue and disagree overall. You seem to force that situation tbh to just impose your way of thinking on others.
The as 30 are strong, untli the ir variants of the pgm they literally were the best missile on the french tt
Have you ever used agm 65b? You can easily outrange most spaag, aside from the pantsir, with the nord, with the agm 65 you need to be under 6 km to get a track.
The AS30 can be intercepted easily by pantsir so idk what you are saying but not at all, plus you can only use 1 at a time unlike AGM65.
And M4K do not have PGM so you can only hit 1 target at a time not 2 or more like the F16 that get GNSS and IR self guided.
and the nord what are you talking about the AA20-Nord ??? The M4K does not have that .
Its down to personal preference, against spaags i find them more reliable than the pgm, specually before when those were tv guided, and you can still get miltiple kills in short periods of time if you time them well enough.
The Su-27 was designed to be a competitor to the F-15A and the M4K was designed to be an alternative to the F-15A. They all have trade offs and are roughly equal. They should be balanced around each-other and all be the same BR.
as30 has smoke trail unlike some mavericks…
and others are not from this br pool.
And how can you just say they are easier to intercept lmao not at all
Then why are you comparing it to other options ??? While it being from another “equal pool( not around this br)”.
Does the f16 have others options such as GNSS bombs ? YES…
and agm are IR guided and TV and some are lasers( not on F16 in french TT.)
Maybe indicate wich one are you talking about as i said you are not clear when you say that.
