Mig21SMT vs F4E II(and similar planes like japan F4EJ)

At best you can say they are the same

Not debatable. AIM7E2 are leagues superior to R3R. AIM-9J has superior range and you’re still not outpulling it so the only time the R60 will be superior is in very specific scenarios where you need the extra agility at close range which will not be utilized often

Far from it. Extremely strong radar for a non-PD radar.

I get look down locks all the time.

No. Skill issue.

You’ve clearly never seen someone like simply sinful pilot a mig -21 in sim lmao

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Idc what some random person does with it. I am speaking generally as a direct comparison of the two planes.

Considering you don’t know him even though it’s about the sim game mode says something

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Kizvy you can never talk logic to him. He’s the expert.

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Sorry that I don’t keep tabs on every jim and johnny on WT

keep crying

Instead I will have a good time flying the J-7D. It doesn’t seem like you have a good time flying the mig 21 in sim. I will hope that improves for you. Then I will move on with life.

Clearly you have an issue with this

Maybe if the F-4 pilot is not good, it can easily just keep its energy and pull hard into the rate.

Because you either airfield camp or wait for someone else to fight your battles

idk I never found f4es hard to fight in MIG 21s. they’re food if they take the fight, or they run back to airfield

Kizvy dont waste your time brother

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Never thought anyone would vouch for this guy since he got chased out even in DCS

Another person with pretty much no time in the mig in sim gives their opinion. What even is this community?

What are you talking about for DCS
I have like 30 minutes on that game, never really played it after I realized trying to configure a controller is a chore since I dont have a hotas.
actually its 15 minutes lol
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Yeah a Chinese premium with relative flight performance that differs from all the Russian models and have different missiles too with a western HUD, surely.

And I literally played the MiG-21F-13

They actually don’t.

really? I’ve found that mig-21s with landing flaps out could usually cook the phantom back when I dueled. Though, that was before the mig-21 flight model nerf like a year ish ago…

Maybe if f-4e is trim turning at mach jesus it could win, but imo landing flaps + mig 21 fm really cooks

F-4E can just maintain 750kph in turn and MiG-21 will run itself out of energy. Also F-4E has agile eagle slats so it can actually pull AoA.

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