Mig21SMT vs F4E II(and similar planes like japan F4EJ)

I’m guessing yes, somehow.

Sim, famously about dogfighting. Nothing else.

I mean yeah? At that br it’s just furballs and dogfights
(Not including zombers form events)

F-4E is 1. No slouch in a dogfight 2. Has superior soft features such as cockpit visibility/radar to find enemies 3. Better missiles 4. A far better m61 vulcan for a gun 5. Last but not least, massive first shot capability with the AIM7E2. Even at low altitude you can slot onto people and fire AIM7E2s at close range for high impact.

None of this talks about the fact it also doubles as a bomber

What exactly does the MiG-21SMT or MiG-21MF do better besides stall fights or one circle fights? The F-4E wins two circle dogfights as well

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Cockpit visibility is way worse on the phantom than the mig-21s

Debatable considering what people use them for in sim. Radar missiles tho ya no contest but f4es radar is useless

Nope unless someone is flying higher than you

F4E will die before 2 circle even happens

All f4E can do is run away

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At best you can say they are the same

Not debatable. AIM7E2 are leagues superior to R3R. AIM-9J has superior range and you’re still not outpulling it so the only time the R60 will be superior is in very specific scenarios where you need the extra agility at close range which will not be utilized often

Far from it. Extremely strong radar for a non-PD radar.

I get look down locks all the time.

No. Skill issue.

You’ve clearly never seen someone like simply sinful pilot a mig -21 in sim lmao

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Idc what some random person does with it. I am speaking generally as a direct comparison of the two planes.

Considering you don’t know him even though it’s about the sim game mode says something

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Kizvy you can never talk logic to him. He’s the expert.

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Sorry that I don’t keep tabs on every jim and johnny on WT

keep crying

Instead I will have a good time flying the J-7D. It doesn’t seem like you have a good time flying the mig 21 in sim. I will hope that improves for you. Then I will move on with life.

Clearly you have an issue with this

Maybe if the F-4 pilot is not good, it can easily just keep its energy and pull hard into the rate.

Because you either airfield camp or wait for someone else to fight your battles

idk I never found f4es hard to fight in MIG 21s. they’re food if they take the fight, or they run back to airfield

Kizvy dont waste your time brother

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Never thought anyone would vouch for this guy since he got chased out even in DCS

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Another person with pretty much no time in the mig in sim gives their opinion. What even is this community?