its not just america for example YAK-3U and LF MK-9 basically unbeatble even with some 6.0s and there still 5.7 or YAK-3 which is still 4.3 for no reason
cause some other under tiered vehicles exist
basically every country has a couple under tiered vehicles the main countries have a bit more than others usually
Chinese F-100A has 9Es (i don’t understand if you are saying the same) and a basic difference is F-100A is lighter 9,14t vs 9,66t of the 100D , with the same engine.
100D also can carry more fuel internally i believe…
Now i don’t know , since you can filll as much fuel you want it doesn’t really affect it, but i think if you fly them both minimum (let’s say you test with a friend and you go dogfight to see perfromance) 100D should be heavier because minimum goes by percentage and 100D has 46min while 100A has 29min.
I’m not home and i can’t check if they gave them external fuel tanks, because if they have it can make big difference.
I haven’t played 100A , but with 500kg less it should fly better , knowing it has same engine it should accelerate better and maneuver better.
100D is heavier, because of the extra equipment for F/B -multi-role and if i remember it should have strenthened structure , to carry more ordinance.
And in flight refuel.
D has slats, A does not. It’s a complicated comparison
NO! NEVER!
i played MiG-21F13 when they were 9.7, and i was doing 2KD easy.
it only because people are bad that the low amount of ammo and the aircraft is considered bad,…
the aircraft is great on it’s intended purpose - INTERCEPTING
however an Interception is not a Head-on forced combat,…
because you force in a turnfight where you should keep your speed,… it’s not our problem if you’re too bad with it,…
knowing strengths and weakness of an aircraft is key to triumph with those,… yet lowskill/newbies people prefers to complain.
Sounds like a krill issue
Now it does back in the day it didnt
yes, and it can be somehow double checked with MiG-21PFM which is same BR, but is a bit heavier (0.5tons) aircraft than MiG-21F-13. (hence the 1.6KD instead on MiG-21 PFM)
i don’t really wanna argue the fact that i did my stats ages ago (when BR 9.7), because it doesn’t reflect on current matchup,… but the aircraft have been downed in BR several times because of how bad players uses it, and not because of match up difficulties.
today, having 9.3 is enough, we don’t need to see that at 9.0
F13 could stay but J7II nah.
Graphs first:
Turning
Energy generation
info on weight
Note that J7II’s engine have a worse overheats timer that burns itself mid match
So, 600kg heavier and more drag. Maybe f13 can be a worst 9.3, but j7II is one more step below.
NONE should get lower,… people just need to improve
Say that to ita cl13mk4 vs f sabres
Mig-21F-13 and alike were 9.7, and i did 2KD in them,…
now they’re 9.3 with no apparent reasons,…
so none of those MiG-21F should go to 9.0.
also,… F-86 sabres have better Flight performances in turnfights, it just requires skill to force MiG-21 to turn.
The fact people can’t use their cannon should not compensate.
The F3H Demon is balanced by the fact it needs to either be shoved off a cliff or at high altitude to get supersonic, and the missiles it does get are AIM-9Bs and the very early AIM-7Cs which are practically useless at anything other than high altitude.
The F11 Tiger gets balanced by the fact it has a horrendous turn rate because of the swept wings, and the fact that the engine is, relatively speaking, not that powerful. Afterburner is pretty much mandatory.
The F-104 is not “better” in every way. The F-104 has a good gun, and is comically fast, but the price it pays for it is that it is horrendous at turning in every sense of the word above 750kph.
The MiG-21, especially the early versions, are “challenging” to fly as they too can lose speed exceptionally quickly, but they compensate for that by being able to turn very hard when it has speed, and getting a good hard hitting weapon systems and 2 R-3S missiles.
Basically, skill issue, learn how to handle your plane. It’s crime enough that they’re 9.3 (F-104 and MiG-19 included)
The Sea Vixen cannot engage from the front aspect. The MiG-21 can.
Because players do not understand the flying characteristics of the aircraft they fly. The MiG-21 F-13 is exceptionally dangerous if handled well and not facing all aspect missiles (shocker). It is limited by 60 rounds, but good trigger discipline and understanding of the ballistics of the gun will aid with it. Same problem with the PFM (I’ll admit to struggling with the GSh-23 gun, since that thing needs a lot more lead than you’d expect, coming from an ADEN user). Throw in that it is very easy to lose all your speed very quickly, which makes you a free kill in a furball, and it is a very difficult plane to fly. Doesn’t mean it should be undertiered.
This is universal to other 9.3s and 9.7s. See the Jaguar GR.1, which while it does have 9Gs, will commonly face aircraft with flares, and has even worse performance than a MiG-21. Or the French Hunter which iirc is 9.3 with 9Bs, not great turning, and firmly subsonic.
It’s a bit like the F3H you mention later - they turn very hard and consequently run out of speed and energy quickly. Speed is your friend in the MiG-21. If you have to turn, avoid making it sharp.
the MIG 21 F13 doesnt have R3Rs only S which is a rear aspect aim 9B copy so it cant engage frontally either
yes it can. it has a gun.
thats a dumb take suicide heads will get you killed fast especially since most 9.3s have better armaments also you only have 60 rounds best not to waste them in headons
You do know there’s this thing called “pulling out”? Works really well for me.
Also, apart from the Vulcan and the A-10 gun, what gun is that much better, because I can guarantee you if you shoot first, and you pull off, standfast the A-10 that is allowed to get nose on because it’s comically slow, you’re not guaranteed to die. Headons are not a death sentence if you’re not full sending.
Thought you know the difference between mk4 and Fs
sorry to have overestimated/
Not alike. Reasons given by graphs.
just because you “take” a headon, doesn’t oblige you to fire. sounds dumb, works very well actually.
