Mig-21 Bison needs to increase the BR to 12.7 or 13

That F-5 would be 13.0

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The F5t starts at 1450km/h and the

Bison at 1350km/h you can catch up with it.

It has a worse kit than the MiG-29G, missing out on both the R-27E and 2 R-73 pylons.
The FM is also significantly worse.
Also, you should never have a problem flaring R-73’s in the F-5, that thing has the heat signature of a butterfly.

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F-5s are trash and easy to defeat or just simply ignore I kill tons of F-5C and that Thailand one with Mirages all F-5s can do is shoot players with its very user friendly guns that are lacking in braincells that try to fight it in a rolling scissors or just decided to fly under 900kmh for some reason… If you dont do those things it can only chase you not ever attack you and even a trash A-5 actually will outrun any F-5 on the deck…

Mig-21 Bison is balanced.* currently. Until there’s decompression in general, Mig-21 Bison is with its peers.
F-5T’s loadout is also on the 12.3 JH-7A, so F-5T to 12.3?

Said literally nobody ever. F-5’s are very strong.
This is also being said by the guy who was ratio’d 16:0 in his own thread:
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also that dude hasnt played an f5 in bout 2 years lol

Until you find out the F-5E out-flies the Mig-21Bis outside top speed.
It’s a minimum of 2 degrees per second sustained, and acceleration is about the same between the aircraft.

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You have no idea what you’re talking about OP.

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F-5s are incredible aircraft overall (all of them).

Mig - 21 Bison is perfectly fine at 12.3. Maybe it can go to 12.7, but then it would be utter trash. 12.3 is perfectly fine, it’s the same br as the mirage 2k cs4.

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Make gaijin’s cash cow less appealing? are you serious?

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Maybe MiG-21 Bison is a 12.45-ish kind of jet I think

it might be a bit too good for the current 12.3BR,
Still, Sending the current 12.7 and tying it with the MiG-29 or Mirage 2000C-S5 feels like a dumb move.

Especially if the reason is

  • I want to kick some 10.n BR idiots with no CM with mah Python 3-armed F-5
  • but that Indian Jet is annoying as hell, feels like mah F-5T became unplayable
  • So I want it dead and become unplayable, for my fun.

:/

As long as MiG-21 Bison’s fuselage is from MiG-21bis.
If they want to tie with those 12.7BR 4th Gen jets, Bison must get something extra.
(I like the current loadout on 12.3)

  • Giving options to arm R-27ER/ET.
    Then, MiG-29 has a better fuselage (MiG-29>MiG-21) but we have a better IR missile (R-60M<R-73). and will become more suited for 12.7BR.
  • or Extra countermeasure pods which were proposed on the original MiG-21-93 upgrade plan. (MiG-21-93)
    it will make double the CM than now (120 total)
    FYI, This idea is unhistorical, Because, even though MiG-21 Bison’s upgrade plan itself were based on 21-93, but not the 100% same plan.
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Or, you know, decompression

I am well aware that decompression which makes more shelf
for better balancing is always will best option.

but, You know, I know, WE ALL KNOW that Gaijin don’t decompress BR things when it is needed direly

:'|

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You ae somewhat correct. F-5 at 10 are strong however at 11.3 are trash. It really hard to score a kill where many of your enemy are bvr capable aircraft while f-5 is pure for dogfight. My f-5 mostly killed by radar guided missile

Have you played f-5t against bison, f-16, and mirage f1c? Fuselage are nothing special in the bvr fight. Most of the kill are using radar guided missile.

Jh-7a Is a strike aircraft for cas. I only see one time so far in air battle. It just go to base, bomb, then killed by somebody. If it is for air battle, I would say the br should be max 11.7 for this aircraft considering the speed and the extra load.
My comparison is for fighter vs fighter.
Do u have another example of fighter with only 2 aim without IRCCM with br over 12?

You mean when I am on the same team at the start of the battle with the bison on arcade battle?

F-5E FCU can bring 1 base of bombs, same as JH-7A, while having 2 Python 3s, and 2 non-Python 3s.
F-5E FCU is 11.3, the JH-7A is 12.3.

On top of that, F-5E FCU has a superior airframe to that of Mig-21 Bison.
So Bison loses airframe performance and gains 2x R-73s and 2x big missiles.

I have more comparisons but little time for now.

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