Mig-21 Bison needs to increase the BR to 12.7 or 13

It’s not like R-73s are particularly hard to flare lol, especially in front and side aspect.

Of course, when you only really played the F-14A these last days you won’t die a lot to F-16As.

However dying to a Bison in an F-14A means you have made some quite interesting gameplay decisions.

I was obviously talking about F-16A variants, not the ones with Fox 3’s 🤦🏻‍♂️

lol, sure buddy. I have used both 9M’s and R-73’s and would take R-73+HMD combo in any day over others.

So, You believe F-16A/ADF are overrated than current [12.3-12.7]
But wants MiG-21 Bison to go higher?

Then you want
F-16A 12.3->12.0
F-16A ADF 12.7->12.3

MiG-21 Bison 12.3->12.7 or 13.0?

Really?
No offence.
No ragebaiting but sincenery idea?

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He can’t get kill with IR AAM unless it is a R-73 and HMD combo. AIM-9M and it variants are now worthless minecraft arrow and F16A are piss bad

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I said overrated, not over tiered. F-16A is fine at 12.3. What I mean that it’s a situational jet, 9L’s are near useless for any aware targets sine they lack IRCCM which is common in this BR range and flight performance only really shines on dogfights which rarely happens.

This, yes! It needs to be 12.7. It’s not good for 13.0 but too good for 12.3.

Did I say that you said those thing or are you schizoing and trying to win an unwinable fight ?

R-73’s are way more harder to flare than 9L’s, at close range you need to pre flare and it pulls wayyy more G’s and AOA than 9L or 9M’s. Below 1km it’s unflarable, at close side aspect it’s also unflarable. 9L’s are only unflarable at close rear aspect when afterburning and doesn’t pull nowhere near as much.

So you just gonna ignore that the thing still a Mig21 on 12.3 ?

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This part is right, can’t convince one who doesn’t want to be convinced. So, I won’t be.

EDIT:

And AV-8B Plus is still a harrier at 13.0, by your logic it could be 12.3-12.7 and it would be fine since it’s just an harrier.

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Yeah cause you cherry picking the worst part possible and hope people will agree with your piss poor point ? Still ignoring that it is still a Mig21 at 12.3. And with your piss poor logic then F4 can be considered a lower br if not as good as the F16. Still gonna ignore what holding the Bison back as a 12.3 jet and just focus on the R-73 because your skill issue not allowing you to pre flare the thing ? Yeah no shiet sherlock. Also saying that F16 are overrated making any point you trying to make further pretty much hold no value. I can’t believe someone would say such horrible statement and act like he right

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Don’t play with words.

  1. you claimed F-16A are ‘overrated’
  1. you also claimed that MiG-21 Bison is underrated.

So,

This is in a logically deducible area.

Man, are you here to piss everyone off?
I think you are the one who is insecure here and can’t remember what you even talked about.

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Strange, I think this reply which I saw was way shorter than this.

I told you before on this topic
MiG-21 bison will need R-27ER/ET for being sidegrade of MiG-29

Every soviet jet in 12.7BR is accessible to R-27ER/ET.
Bison don’t.

It would be easy to convince people if you actually had convincing arguments.

Because saying this about the F-16A seems like more of a player issue than a F-16 issue.

I have played the F-16A, Mirage 2000C-S5 and MiG-21 Bison at 12.3 and if I had to pick what to play the Bison would always be third place.

Hell even if you change the S5 for the S4 (seeing as the S5 is now 12.7), the Bison would still be third place for me.

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Congrats, you totally missed the entire point of the post.

Is this your first time using the internet?

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So you just proved to us that your argument doesn’t have any value and doesn’t prove anything beside it match your personal confirmation bias then ? Lmao , xd even

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BRUH

mig 21 bison, with the mig21 bis model with radar and HMD 39 is very op according to you, they would need to go up to 12.7 or 13.
But a plane with an FM comparable to the 14.0 plane in the 12.3 is easily acceptable.
I already saw the joke ready (edit ; I’m referring to the post and not the player)

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with 4x aim 120 and 2x aim9m…
you are a pit of contradictions zzz