Can´t wait for the Ka-52m to be added and some people will deny bias cause “france and china also has 2 helis with fnf and rafale and mirage and sumthing sumthing my reverse is bad” lol.
You’re focusing on it being added in September, but not the actual impact during September. You can use Ad Hominem all you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that the Mi-28NM, the least played Russian top-tier helicopter while also being the least played type of vehicle in ground battles, can’t jump win rate by 10% 6 days after being buffed. Players have to get the vehicle and the weapon. Those who GE it aren’t enough to jump the win rate alone.
You don’t understand how statistics work. The first 23 days of September don’t vanish overnight. They are the majority of the data set for September. Winrate is an average. If the majority of the data set is before the buff, the average being 58% for the month indicates that it was performing well, suddenly the WHOLE month. That’s basic Algebra.
Russia’s overall win rate did not improve either, which further proves that Russia didn’t suddenly start having “100% win rates” in September, the moment the LMUR was added. It took players time to get it once it was added. That’s common sense.
In October, however, the win rate DID jump overall, which shows the true effect of the LMUR. The LMUR resulted in an 6% increase to Russia’s abilities, not 100%.
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its not an ad hominem it just shows that youre sloppy at best which makes arguing with you already painful.
This entire paragraph is based on you assuming that people have not unlocked the MI28NM which you dont know.
Again the assumption would be that the games are equally distributed over the whole month which is questionable at best in an update month. And yes i do understand statistics, because other than your lazy butt i actually calculated how the games played would need to be distributed pre and post update to create the winrate we see.
You dont even understand the usage of 100% winrate and have the audacity to question my understanding of statistics, i cant. I used 100% winrate to calculate the minimum number of exceptionally good players needed to create the winrate rise we see. I did not claim that they had 100% winrate it just shows that even IF every additional game/player had 100% winrate the number would still be unproportionally high.
Thats all you do, assumptions based on nothing with not even the slightest try of math anywhere
Keep believing your fairytale of superior russian players but stop commenting here before you embarass yourself even more
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You can argue with Merriam-Webster and whatnot, but I don’t care for this behavior.
Not only do the numbers show that the Mi-28NM is played 50-100k games less per month compared to the Ka-52 before September, but I’ve also been playing this game for well over a decade.
Oh, but the spike in winrate for the Mi-28NM was in 6 days? Right. The majority of 416,000 matches were absolutely and definitely played in the last week of September.
I can’t think of a more outrageous claim than that.
I’d love to see your math. I’ve openly shown mine.
This can simply be explained by assuming good players came back to the Mi-28NM before the update dropped, with increase the performance by 10% over a whole month, which is significantly more reasonable than raising it from 47% to 58% in 6 days.
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My god please be more fragile when confronted with criticism, jesus. What you think is an ad hominem is actually ridiculous.
Still has no information whatsoever about the ownership percentage of the MI28NM and is again just an anecdote.
Nope they dont have to be the majority if the Winrate in the 6 days was high enough a lower number would suffice.
ive shown my math above, you can read it. You havent shown any math whatsoever since you didnt actually do any.
Which as ive said numerous times now would require an amount of returning players thats nowhere seen in the statistics we have.
You can comment and cry as much as you want but you have put 0 effort and thinking into this other than “i think its caused by that so it is caused by that”
i think i abuse it a bit too much
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These team wiping fire and forget CAS need to be separated from players without them. Simple solution really. Move them to 14.0 ground. That way, you can only face them if you have one yourself.
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I don’t enjoy helicopters due to things like the:
m246
M247
Gepard
Itpsv
ZA-35
Beglit
Do I need to keep adding to the list?
Well Well Well…
No wonder you staunchly defend russian CAS
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defend it ? i never defended russian cas ? if it was about the existance about the kh38mt that different type of discusion but i never did ? lol
the crazy part is i am mad about gaijin not to add similar weapon to counter part even after 1 year. even if see me as russian main, i didnt chose it, it chose me.
Wonder if theres any equivalent version of kh38 to other nation, I was thinking of the agm 142 (popeye) but a heavy fighter can only carry 2 max
ther was one for the us, shit let me find it
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This is not a equivalent to the Kh38s. These are subsonic munitions and is no where near as fast and deadly. In addition, the payload capacity is not large compared to the su30/4. I believe the F-15E can carry 2 and the F18 can carry 4.
Going from the kh29 to the kh38, there is no trade-off. It’s an overall upgrade. But going from the Mavericks to the Harpoon, there’s definitely a trade-off in capacity for munitions that can still be intercepted easily.
The thing is that mavericks are severely under performing because it’s drag is heavy. Fixing this would be such a major buff.
What I would like to see is stuff like the Storm Breaker, JAGM-F, or AGM-169
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not when i wrote that comment obviously people dont read threads from the bottom up mate
There’s 0 chance mavericks will get fixed in a reasonable time and even if they did, russia would have to get something to counter them better
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Hopped on for my first game after work. After about 3 minutes, killed by a lmur. Then jumped in my SAM, killed by another lmur. Spawned an mbt, 15 seconds out of spawn - you guessed it, lmur. Left the game. Turned off war thunder.
GGs gaijin
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Sounds about right, fair and balanced comrade
That’s why I like playing italy. The only nation with a SHORAD that’s effective at CRAM.
By the time your Rafale intercepts the chopper (you need to spawn and pay alot points for it), the cookie has been mostly eaten. You need to destroy the ground vehicle youre currently in. You need to expense 700-800 points to spawn the Rafale. You need to fly 20 km and then make your shot.
Any Mi-28 would have already fired a full volley, touched down, fired another volley, thouched down… Means your team will be already dust. Most pple also tend to leave when killed by air. So it doesn’t change anything, the match will be lost.
The only solution would be if fighters would be cheaper to spawn (they’re more expensive than ATGM choppers, even just with air-air loadout). So they could be brought in earlier.
I guess as long as russian air is that stronK, it would make sense to allow fighter first spawns. Otherwise its difficult with all this mad stuff. Sadly SPAAs wont work vs these threats. BUK with hypersonic MACH5 missiles probably drop enemy air assets before they’re doing too much damage. But nothing else. See BUK shooting down Rafales alot, btw.
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