I don’t think it is a great addition. I think it is fine for skins/decals/decorators. I think it is very bad for vehicles. I believe vehicles will eventually be added if this is successful.
I think another issues, that has been mentioned on this thread many times, is the necessity to prepurchase GJD to participate. Once GJD are purchased, Gaijin has the money.
In Gaijin’s defense I don’t think they could do a successful auction without the guarantee of funds from participants. Perhaps they should offer refunds, but we know they won’t.
I am unsure if I am willing to bid high enough to ‘win’ any items.
The skins are coupons and can be sold later. If I bought them it would be with intention to resell. I don’t have either vehicle.
I am not sure they will sell. Their rareness will help them command a high price, but will hinder there visibility on the market place. They can’t be sold for 180 days, that is a very long time.
There is a huge danger in buying anything rare in the marketplace. Gaijin can flood the market at any time. I have many coupons that once would have sold for over 100GJN that are now only worth 10-20GJN.
What is to stop these items from being auctioned every week next year after the waiting period? They could be auctioned a million at a time, every week.
The frame is not a coupon and can not be resold. I am leery to spend so much money on such a dumb thing. I also think it looks nice and I have plenty of GJD.
I am surprised this has been the price leader all auction. As it has a lower bid increment than the others I suspect Gaijin is surprised as well. I think the skins will end higher, but we will see.
even for skins and other cosmetics its just bad and unnecessary
if people don’t want the skin it will be way to cheap and combined whit low sales both gaijin and the creator go empty handed
and if there is a run on it alot of people go empty
or what happens wen a unpopular skin ends up becoming valuable because it becomes a meme and/or is shown by YouTube
and there are only like 10 copons left because none wanted them before those 10 players have now beaten the game (meanwhile again pretty much everyone goes empty handed
and i still fail to see how its supposed to benefit players besides those that have already beaten the RL game but if i can send a Tesla into space why would i play war thunder were skill is required.
why have something which is like stepping on Lego if it doesn’t even benefit anyone
firstly who wants hes skin on an very predatory pay to win auction and then only get 30% of the top 100 bidders and the rage of angry players that lost money whiteout getting it
As many others here I’m thankful that you stepped in to provide some clarity. @todace
I found this passage to be rather crucial as it shows that there is a perceived disconnect between the Developers and the End Users (which we are :) ) and I think that is rather concerning.
I’m not sure who would act as your Product Manager within Gaijin, but it would be that persons responsibility to ensure that there is no such disconnect.
One of the things that I’ve noticed over the years is that Gaijin is keen to implement new things that they percieve as useful/helpful and progress to the game. Some of those changes are good and welcome, others are not.
We, as the End Users, do not feel like our opinion counts. There is absolutely no Voice of Customer that I’m aware of that collects our feedback in a proper and constructive way. There is no feedback form, no customer survey…nothing.
This forum provides some feedback, but apparently it is either being ignored, nor is there any constructive dialogue with anyone from Gaijin.
If we had that kind of dialogue and if our “voice” would actually be considered, then I think the feedback from the playerbase to the devs would be significant better, because at the end of the day, we all recognize what a difficult job you guys have and what a fantastic product you actually deliver.
However, if we we are constantly under the impression of talking to a wall and every now and then we get something thrown over the wall, then it can lead to frustration and that is then expressed in a non-constructive way.
So maybe you can get your War Thunder Product Manager to start a proper customer survey and a continuous feedback form and then maybe more Developers will feel encouraged to engage with the community.
Thank you for participating in the Auction testing!
Since this Auction was experimental, we decided to end it using a single-price system. This means that all winners paid the same price equal to the lowest possible bid at the end of the Auction (during the Auction, this was displayed on the red “Make a bid” button; it’s the sum of the lowest winning bid and the bid increment). The remaining amounts of each participant’s bid has been unfrozen on their accounts.
there is always some feed back
"tiger 1 needs go to 4.0 " , “no tiger needs to go to 6.0” …
historical brs , ww2 separation
whatever
and gaijin needs to decides whats important and what not
but this here is vastly different given the feedback goas overwhelmingly in a single direction without anyone arguing for it at all
There’s three sides to this, players, content creators and Gaijin.
Players
The good
More cosmetic options added to the game
The bad
Artificially limited availability on camouflages
Highly inflated prices for game content
Need to purchase GJN to participate, which can’t be refunded, forcing a player to spend money even if they don’t “win” the right to buy
No console availability
Possibility of escalation into more aspects of the game (such as vehicles)
Content Creators
The good
Additional option to get their content into the game
Good pay (possibly)
The bad
Their hard work is limited to obscurity
Bad pay (possibly)
Gaijin
The good
Additional income
Generally high prices
Low effort (since camouflages would be player made)
Possibility to expand past cosmetics
The bad
Limited sales due to limited quantity
Limited target customers due to inflated prices
Limited target customers due to lack of console support
Negative reputation
Overall I’d say other options, such as for example a weekly rotating camouflage store for user camos and seasonal items (such as the profile frame) as a GE based store in the game would be a lot more beneficial to all, so I hope that is considered instead.
But I cannot understand—if the developers are so passionate about the game, why are they making these changes? If these changes in the Auction weren’t made by the developers themselves but were instead ordered from above, I struggle to see how this is can be so black and white. Are there no higher-ups who are as passionate about the game as studios like Arrowhead?
I just don’t get it. There are so many bullet holes in this game that remain unpatched. Wouldn’t better motives and treatment of the community lead to more doubloons? One of the reasons I bought Helldivers 2 was because of the passionate dev team—like the CEO who stepped down to a lower position so a more capable person could take charge.
One of the reasons I haven’t spent more than 40 euros on this game is because it feels untrustworthy. Why are we getting so much copy-paste content? Imagine if, instead of the M26 copy-paste, we got the Rocket T-62. The videos around it would be popular and drive more player to install this game. This just feels like corner-cutting to push content out. I don’t want these SPAA’s.
You spent 144,65GJN on cosmetics, which is perfectly fine if you have the disposable income and feel good about it.
Btw, thanks for sharing the info for what the 3 items were actually sold for.
I think the majority of players thinks that they can get at least 2, maybe more, premium vehicles for that amount of money which help with the grind and give SLs…I’m certainly one of them :)
It only made it so all player pay an equal price, which was selected to be the minimum bid (lowest possible price). That’s a change that’s literally only good for players, and bad for nobody except Gaijin who could’ve made more money off keeping them high.
The message community waited for, but did not receive (yet). When the WT marketing manager will publish its verdict on the auction thing? Will it be the first and the last time we see this anti-consumer feature!?
