Because the 262 is FAR more outclassed than the rest? I don’t want to downtier the 262 either but decompression needs to happen and gaijin will never do it
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They don’t turn like a brick at all, they’re similar to the P-80. The issue is not that the 262 is bad at 7.0, it’s that so many other allied aircraft have been compressed down over time. There is no reason for the 84B to be 7.0, the F2H be 7.3, Su-11 7.3, and so on. The A1a is obsoleted by the Jabo which gets an airspawn and carries less fuel on min load. Overall the 262s are quite nice to fly, they’re just competing about highly compressed (mostly)US jets. They can’t go down because they’d be completely untouchable to props, if played right which becomes boring for both parties.
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The 163 had a 4 step throttle. None of which really affected fuel consumption. It’s not just on and off.
Without the fuel control it’s useless, a 6 minute tank is basically unplayable, but at 8.7 it’s also unplayable, and a different pair of guns is not worth a 0.7 BR increase at a compressed BR range.
Now that the F86A’s and the MiG-15’s see 7.0BR now, playing early germany has been nothing but pain. I want to add that the Vampire F.B.5 (which is slower than the 262 in my observation) is still at 8.0. A BR in which it’s only pro’s are its dogfighting capabilities and armament.
This whole BR feels like a crapfest. I have been TEAM KILLED by an F86F in my Vampire, because I told them in chat that the F86F/F86A doesn’t deserve to get its BR lowered.
Don’t even have anything to say about the Ho-229. You need to have actual masochistic tendencies to be enjoying that thing.
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109-509A-1, used is many captured 163B-1a frames.
And as for the fuel flow, they should just give it the ~7:30 it was capable of, or alternatively buff its climbrate which (depending on source, because performance numbers vary a LOT with this plane) is upwards of being half of what it should be.
I don’t think lowering it would be fair, as much as I’d love to fight props. I think both should be 8.0, the B-0, personally is just worse than the B-1a. I prefer 108s to 151s. But honestly, the 163 / Ki200 don’t need anything changed with them compared to other aircraft at the BR. The vampire at 8.0 is pathetic. Sabre and Fagot both should go up, and probably will soon given the upcoming decompression.
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I fully agree. Vampire used to he one of my favourite aircraft to play, then they bumped it up twice in quick succession which is wild. It’s funny because they bumped the Vampire from 7.3 → 7.7, they did the same with the Su11. But then when they bumped the Vampire to 8.0, the Su-11 straight to 7.0. They claimed that player statistics were not a reliable method of balancing, and the forum post has since been lost to time since the forum update. Ironic, eh?
Yeah, I’ve likely seen the same videos and I got no answers for that man. I love the Komet with all my heart. I think it’s a little sad that its climb rate feels squandered, but I think overall the plane (the B-1a) is in a comfortable position at 8.0 given how easy it is to bait people into vertical reversals.
Honestly, I haven’t really flown the Komet in a long time. I don’t know if they changed anything with the FM but I have no idea what this issue you have with the rudder is. It could also be that I tend to force reversals and bait people slow rather that high speed fighting, when I get home I’ll try to look into it but I doubt there will be any souces on it historically. All accounts I know of point to it just being an excellent flyer at speed.
Not sure what I’m looking at but I think that the Me 163 doesn’t climb like it should, right?
yea long time ago according to some of my older warthunder freinds it climbed like irl and was so good nothing could beat it so they nerfed it
the most masochist german aircraft because of the br has to be the me262 c2b stock grind, it has 6.0 jet engines from the he162 which is mid the me262 c1a is very good at 7.3 but the c2b has no right be higher as they are very similar other than the rocket motors once you run out of fuel your dead in dogfights as the 2 bmw rocket motors are weaker than the previous c1a they just have a longer burn time and fighting mig 15bis with better flight performance is just pain hope they make it 7.7 where it belongs and if they do end up adding the me262 HG models they go after it
not to mention the russian la200 at 7.7 which is good oh and also the ho229 hits about 1000kmh but does not ingame for some reason
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SU-11 being still the same BR as the 262’s after all these years is nothing short of a joke.
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Shouldn’t the Me 262 be considered an Interceptor instead of a Fighter?
It’s already silly that the one that can carry bombs and is otherwise identical is considered a Strike Aircraft and gets an airspawn.
How does the ability to carry bombs make it a Strike Aircraft? There’s like no difference to a P-51 or P-47.
The whole armament of the Me 262 is set up to intercept bombers.
From the four MK 108s to the R4M rockets.
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Do some research about the differences of the Sturmvogel and the Schwalbe and you find out that your claim is not correct. In order to carry bombs (Sturmvogel) the finished Schwalbe saw several internal changes to ensure that the shift of the Center of Gravity (CoG) after releasing the bombs did not create nose- or tail heavy flight conditions (imprtant for low level attack profiles) which stalled the operational use further.
Regarding your comparison with props: Apples and Oranges. The wings of props are (in most cases) attached to the fuselage exactly near the CoG - so adding payloads near the CoG (under the wings) is not really complicated.
Finally: Look up the “non-combat-ready” conditions of P-51s with the large fuel tank behind the pilot. As long as the tank was full the plane was not able to fight, that’s why the fuel in this tank had to be used first in order to balance the CoG.
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Ah yes, completely different.
They took a plane and made it possible to carry bombs and now it’s a strike aircraft.
Except it isn’t. Since nothing other than carrying bombs changed about how the plane can operate.
It’s literally in the name “Jabo”. It’s a fighter bomber but the Me 262 is a fighter/interceptor by nature.
German player here, at first i thought this plane was ass because i didn’t know how to play it coming from props, so i just grinded the mig15 with the ta152. after grinding the entire german air tree i came back to the me262 to play it again… and found out it wasn’t actually my skill issue, its just a shit plane
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fun when spaded sucks balls when not