Maus - Threat or punching bag?

This topic is for discussing the effectiveness of the Maus in combat from the perspective of other players.

The Maus is a very iconic tank. Many novice players who have just arrived at 7.7 must have already had their first unforgettable experience encountering one for the first time and spending all their APHE rounds, which only penetrate 150mm, in a pure act of desperation, not knowing what to do. But for those more experienced players who know what ammunition to use and where to shoot (which is the majority), the story is different.

The point is: Currently, many more experienced players, both those who face the Maus and those who use it, raise the discussion of whether the Maus is really a threat considering its characteristics (being the size of a house, being slow, and having one of the easiest guns to hit).

In your view, as players who have used or faced Maus, do you really think he is a threat or an easy tank to kill depending on skill? If you think it’s easy, what would be the reason?

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Its a threat, even with HEAT (90mm most pf the time) its hard to kill it because of the many crew. Also many people dont know to angle the turret when reloading.

Last time I faced a Maus, there was a Maus in our spawn and 4 of our guys couldnt kill it, I had to flanl it with my aml90.

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Threat to all other than a very small amount of vehicles that can sit far enough away to be hard to aim at

AML-90 is based

It is not, just another failed piece of machinery. A bigger truck doesn’t make the labor more efficient.

That’s every tank in war thunder against a novice player is3, t34, etc. even a jumbo shocks a noob player when it can’t be a one tap and requires more experience apart from pointing and shooting.

As a novice yes, lack of experience and easy frustration makes the maus or any tank a pain in the butt. As an experienced player now no. It’s slow, has 2 cannons and moves like garbage. Put it in the German tree and it’s an easy kill. A spaa can make a Maus J out easily by bullying it.

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Well it’s a heavy tank through and through. It’s very good at combatting KE projectiles but dies to HEATFS and artillery caliber HE. It’s an easy kill if you know what ur doing

This is partly due to the ±1 combined with the fact that it’s at 7.7. This makes it fall short against some much more powerful tanks like the Bradley at 8.3 and some other tanks that already use much more advanced ammunition.

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How I feel after I see a maus in my Object 122 MT with APFSDS and 450mm pen ATGMs at 8.7

Like ALL heavy tanks (bar the T58) it’s very strong when top tier and weak when bottom tier, but this is further exacerbated with the Maus due to it’s limited speed.

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I actually find the Pzgr-TS APCBC shell round on the Maus to be the most threatening part about it, since it lets the tank comfortably snipe at long range at very high velocity and deal with other nations’ heavies with massive pen.

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The Pzgr-TS shell is on the Maus due to technical compatibility but neither the Jagdtiger that was the vehicle who actually tested the Pzgr-TS shell nor the Sturer Emil has it. Strange gaijin logic I guess

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Depends, is it in an up-tier or down tier?

Both really, the Maus can either get touched by a Shturm or obliterate a M56, since both are in the BR bracket for the Maus

Punching bag.

Anyone who isn’t new should know the armour profile and whether or not it’s futile engaging a maus and can simply drive away and go another route.

Extremely easy to kill with overpressure and is a massive CAS magnet.

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A deliberately nerfed punching bag at that:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/jYQ8gmDwm2tM
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Lr86di0FYpJh
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/RsuM9uVyylji
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/19nyN8fsSs3z

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its still an icon of ww2 tank evolution. icon of all that went wrong and what was to come after.

Being a crap tank doesnt take away from its notability.

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Just be aware, folks: flame throwers in-game are projectiles, quite literally. Which is also why they don’t just cook the enemy till they fall asleep from Heat exhaustion in their own vehicle.

The Maus can be reliably frontally penetrated by most vehicles from 7.0 and a number of vehicles even lower. Provided the user knows where to aim, and many don’t. Even for those vehicles that can’t directly penetrate the Maus, between the its long reload and poor mobility it’s quite easy to break its barrel and flank it. Or, with also an enormous size, it’s a CAS magnet.
But that doesn’t mean it’s useless. The threat of a Maus unchecked can do more than the Maus itself actually can. The psychological effect of its sheer size can be an effective deterrent against enemy pushes. And its armour will still protect against some guns and rushed shots, and the 128mm is quite powerful.
So threat? Yes. Punching bag? Also yes.

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love the maus got my first nuke in a 7.3-8.3 match with it if you angle right you can reliably shrug off heatfs and having 2 guns means its never truly safe to peak it after it fires as it only take one 75mm shell to barrel someone and the 270 pen over pressure shell will easily dispatch anything at its br save for a few examples like the is4 but even then with good aim you can get thru the drivers port and the very left or right of the mantlet and quite often close bombs only track it instead off killing it like they would most vehicles so yes I would say it is very much a threat in most scenarios

It’s both. In downtiers, it can be a pain to deal with especially if they are around teammates (even with high-penning rounds). In uptiers, it’s usually a free kill but their 128mm roundstill packs a punch.

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