I think it’s time that gaijin implements the doppler return of the rotating helicopter rotor to let ARH missiles effecively lock onto hovering helicopters. Not even notching would save them in this case so they would have to use ground cover and multipathing. The NASAMS would then have a speciality as a SPAA with its ARH missiles.
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yes completly agree with this its just incredible nasty how helicopters are literally invunerable against fox-3 attacks when they shouldn´t.
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IDK whats going on in that video but considering the L370-5L emitter is on the belly of the MI-28NM and when a AGM-65D was fired from on level or below it still connected in my testing im going to say your man above has something else going on.
how the hell you dont know whats going on in the video? you are literally seeing that the AGM-65D its getting affected by LDIRCM in the MI-28NM mate its the devserver man not live server. first of all are you aware that the MI-28NM its getting “LDIRCM” thing that its not the same as “DIRCM”?
In this case would’t he agree with you that AGM-65D would be affected since that would be better for russia if he was biased towards russia like you claim.
@x-GeeNo_MS-x
He’s discussing dev server, which Kh-38MT wobbles where IOG keeps it relatively stable.
Spike IR and Mav 65G are entirely spooked now whereas on.
And NO AGMs on live server are currently affected with AGM-65G tested on live server as that’s what I personally have available.
I get you’re upset that I’m biased against Russia, and you don’t like my bias in favor of NATO, but there’s no reason to make things personal.
well you are literally seeing a video from the devserver proving that the AGM-65D its affected by LDIRCM everybody here saw it you are literally the only one saying otherwise without proving it in every discord server related to war thunder talking about the devserver is literally talking about this but just 2 guys are saying otherwise. clearly you two guys are really biased.
Because my own testing says other wise. In that video he volley fires them from above where there is to my knowledge no emitter, in my own testing fired from below where there is an emitter one per pass the 65D continued to connect and not show any signs of being affected unlike spikes or 65G.
you are literally contradicting yourself here saying “in that video he volley fires them from above where is to my aknowledge no emitter” if it werent an emitter right there it should connect even from above but you are literally seeing in the video that even from above its getting affected the AGM-65D i really cant understand what you are arguing about? the AGM-65G uses the same seeker as the D variant it just change the warhead this is another inconsistency in your narrative. come on dont waste any more words and give us evidence of what you are saying its literally happening show us pls coz we are all interested to see.
I hope it includes a major decompression of naval
Helicopters have not been OP in over half a decade, this is also not a change to helicopters.
This change is correcting the seekers of IR AGMs, which makes the IR AGMs less OP.
But you’d rather keep your Kh-38MT staying OP…
SLAMRAAM, Spyder, FlaRakRad, ITO-90M, etc all deal with helicopters the same as Pantsir. Nice job implying NATO is Russia…
@Cpt_Naoshi_Kanno
CAS isn’t being buffed, helicopters are not changing at all.
IR AGMs as a whole are being corrected to no longer be immune to IRCM.
Can the new ARH SAMs even lock onto helis?
Nope, I’m saying that 7.7 doesn’t even cut it. It should be more like 9.0; naval suffers from severe over-compression to a ridiculously broken degree. The tech tree ceiling s/b 9.7 and Gneisenau, Iowa, and Yamato s/b near the top of that. Unless you enjoy fighting a Kronshtadt with an Omaha class cruiser.
Yes, ARHs were locking onto helicopters in our testing, though we did only test against Ka-52 one time with that.
Ground radars are also stronger than air radars in this role which I sadly can’t test at this time.
My priority was pushing GE into AH-60 for Israel to get the tests with SPIKEs rather than pushing GE into a SPAA platform for testing.
Have you tested the effectiveness of Comanche radar and IR stealth vs. other helicopters?
the answer is no they cant and if for some reason they do the missiles just go ballistic after some seconds.
Hmmm… I will still maintain reservations with regard to ARH SAM vs Helis for the time being then, given that if they actually modeled Rotor blades having a PD signature like they should, it would be in the patch notes.
I am also interested in whether or not the new Gen 5 IR SAMs (IRIS-T and Aim-9X) do anything vs DIRCM equipped helis.
That is what I guessed would be the case.
Looks like the hardest counter for the new SAMs is just to fly a heli :D