Major Update "Leviathans" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

if this is not OP i dont know whats OP anymore, thank you devs!!! for taking away our only way to deal with russian helicopters because IR missile didnt work the new IR ones also dont work because they got nerfed and NOW also AGMs does not work amazing! what a good job here fomenting the MI, KA cancer/spam in 8v8 squadron battles and ground rb thank you soo much!! the whole community that was affected by this for atleast 1 year and a half its very gratefull, coincidentally the only SPAA capable of deal with this its the pantsir and guess guys!!! its also a russian vehicle!!! lmao. say hello to the new russian META in ground RB and 8v8 Squadron battle guys!

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the L-39ZO is not unarmed tho. That variant was used by Germany and Hungary and it had rockets,bombs and R-3S

Hey man I agree it would be nice even without, Devs just dont agree sadly.

what did the devs say? i didnt catch that part of the conversation

Stalin once again holds its protective hand over Russian Helicopters to let them spread fear and despair against every enemy of the gloryus CCCP.

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For real why does Russian CAS gets buffed again.
Not like they had the last year or so uncontested airspace.

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smin -

"Because we don’t currently have any plans for the non gun armed version. As I mentioned, its much more limited in its use and role. Given the L-39s current BR with a gun, one without is even more restricted and far less useful.

There were also other differences beyond just the gun."

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ah. i see.

i dont know man what they do this its tiring and annoying to deal and keep dealing with this BS

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It should get F&F and move to 12.3. Maws alone feels like too small of an upgrade to be 12.0 compared to 11.7.

time to bring good old VT-1 i suppose

Also if gaijin is going to make russian helis invisible to IR missiles, they would do well to model the doppler blade return, so that fox-3s can lock them no issue

Fair enough. In hindsight I shouldn’t have been too suprised it ends up being real, seeing as Gaijin doesn’t mind adding and working on borderline dead gamemodes.

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If Benelux, India, or Switzerland cant have their own tech trees, and considering how Czech vehicles are being added to the USSR, its likely they won’t get their own TT either. And if we also consider the five line limit per tech tree, I have to say the only logical step forward is for the game to keep expanding through new branches within the existing national trees (infantry, submarines, carriers, etc.).

Naval was split into two branches, and submarines will probably be a third. Infantry will be its own independent branch, I’d say thats a given. Enlisted doesnt matter. Unlike wargamings model, where each game is separate, Gaijin has always boasted about having everything in a single game. Infantry is inevitable. Wargaming has no problem expanding its titles because their content is pure fantasy.

War Thunder, on the other hand, will need to introduce other military branches to keep adding content with every update. And in that sense, infantry shooters have always been popular and offer almost unlimited potential for new content.

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it has a DIRCM that only works on IR so DCA in SACLOS and AGM TV like the AGM 65B can easily destroy a Mi 28NM

First off DIRCM has been in the game for years. Second I did my own testing. Compared to LIVE AGM-65G, SPIKES and likely PARS are now affected by it, KH-38MTs seeker is affected but I think its IOG keeps it on course so effectively no change. AGM-65D remains unaffected. Which points to gaijin changing AGM IR Seekers and not the DIRCM.

Spoiler

do we tell him? (4:07 timecode)
https://youtu.be/4aR_rme9fL8?si=Ti4MpqmfC4OJG2v-&t=247

with an IR camera ( AH64E ??? )

Looks to be. They were still testing it in 2022/23 right.

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And as you can see: A perfect target for an IIR seeker → Home-on-Jam

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As it gets closer the jamming may fill most of the seeker fov though

Oh hang on a second… How is the IRIS-Ts gunna deal with anythign DIRCM?