We’ll just have to wait for the J-15 to get 8 + 4, but tbh the J-11B is a good start, it has the most powerful engines of any Flanker I believe
The C-5 supposedly adds high offbore sight capability and an improved seeker field of view, but this is info I found on wikipedia and I am not interested enough in this stuff to look for proper sources.
That chart that people used to throw around has no mentions of improvements in terms of agility and/or overload.
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meanwhile f18
It’s more the way overpressure and HEAT warheads work than the missiles themselves underperforming.
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You are making a comparison without considering the factors
Not only do PL-12s perform pretty closely to 77-1s currently. But the J-11B is a FAR better platform than the Su-30SM.
They still cant fix the drag profile due to engine limitations with dynamic drag profiles and that is the nail in the coffins when it comes to R-77/-1. Until they do or decide its time for 15.0 I heavily doubt were going to see much expansion in the missile territory aside from back filling for older aircraft (things like R-40 etc since apparently Mig-25 is being worked on now)
And to be honest spanish your complaining over this emulates the same kind that prevented pushing the envelope on IR missiles back when Mig-29 was about to be introduced and led to the situation that got R-27ER added prematurely.
As for the amount of missiles IMO that matters very little be it 4,6,8,12 ARHs when the limiting factor on using them is datalink channels on your radar which last I check for soviet fighters is between 1-4 depending on radar set in question and surviving long enough to use them otherwise its extra weight on an already chonky platform.
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I beat that horse over the head with a stick enough. Drop them to 13.7 where theyll still be mid
It’s not 14.0 worthy in its current state, imo
The flight performance has to be better than the J-10A and the radar, much better to be worthwhile.
Otherwise, the J-10A has better flight performance outside of acceleration; it can also use 6x PL-12, and the radar is already good enough in most regards.
J-15 only has 48x countermeasures, it is cooked unless ECM is introduced.
Isint there HE frag mavericks in game, i thought the G and the IR ones werent heat warheads.
I’m not sure, but some of them are SAPHE and not purely HE, so they can actually overpen lightly armored vehicles
True, they should add the PL-8B to the J-10A really
I do believe it should have the best flight performance of any Flanker, should be the most capable of BVR
Strong engines + its the lightest flanker
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Hmmm, so no agility improvements on AIM-120.
it’s Joever. This is what happens when real life weapons are not designed with videogames in mind xD.
Welp, my AIM-120 fight ends here, then. If there are no more agile 120s, then there’s no case here. Knowing that it’s a historical/real life limitation and not one of ingame implementations, it’s easier to accept it and just take the L xD.
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Yeah a lot of expectation came with the teased vehicles and we should have all known better. Still the update is on track to tick off as many people as possible with a lot of these decisions.
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It actually isn’t that light on the dev rn
Only 290 kilos lighter than J-11, still heavier than both the SM and the standard Su-27S
Really, it’s what we should have gotten instead of the J-11A, just with PL-8s instead of Bs at least at first
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Btw for the R-77-1 doomposters. Please stop comparing the missiles stats and ignoring the platforms they’re attached to.
On paper the R-77 outranges the AIM-120 and PL-12… however in practice on their respective best aircraft. They all perform closely. Good missile is limited by not so good platform.
Launch Speed matters when it comes to these missiles
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The only mention of the AIM-120s maximum overload I can find right now says 40G at most, so yes, unless somebody comes around with better sources proving that there were/are AIM-120s with more overload than that, this will be where it ends for AMRAAMs.
They’ll have range, tracking and low drag as their main advantages, while other ARHs have agility. Not sure how the missile speeds will measure up though and honestly, I don’t give enough of a hoot about Fox-3s to look that stuff up.
I don’t care too much anymore
It’s just the radar that I’m hoping Gaijin will not botch.
Then again they screwed up the Captor-M so…
If its as good as the J-10As i can work with it