Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

Those arent quite the same though. Iirc most parts of the F-2 are different from the F-16.

Mitsubishi used the existing F-16 design as a reference guide for design work, and more than 95% of F-16 engineering drawings are changed for F-2.[24][25]

Some differences in the F-2 from the F-16A:

Also, the F-2 is equipped with a drogue parachute,[26] like the version of the F-16 used by South Korea, the Netherlands, Norway, Greece, Turkey, Indonesia, Taiwan, and Venezuela.

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Whilst they maintain similarities and the F-2 is certainly a variant of the F-16 the modifications I beleive were more extensive than either the F-15 or F-4 were from waht I understand (though not an expert on Japanese aircraft, so take that with a pinch of salt)

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That’s what he said, not what I said.

Exactly

I seem to have misunderstood. What your first comment agreeing with me?

Yeah

I see.

Yea I don’t know why they’d hold it back unless they plan to make it into a monster but that’s not really what it is. It’s no EFT or Rafale.

I reckon its just AESA fear or figuring out code for it

By far, EJ Kai was mostly the new radar, F-15J(M) literally just a license made MSIP with very slightly different engines and some electronics swapped with japanese ones. F-2 a full airframe overhaul, new weapons, and radar.

The F-15J(M) is the MTDP, not MSIP, unless something has changed since the Seek and Destroy dev server.

AESA fear doesn’t make sense from a capability standpoint, as the AAM-4 still only has a PD seeker. It’s probably that Gaijin just wants another Apex Predators/Air Superiority/Seek and Destroy, where a bunch of them are added at the same time.

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Can’t wait for some quality Missile ships :D CIWS go BBBBBBUUUUUUURRRRRRTTTTTT

fear is usually irrational. People hear “AESA” and assume its gunna be OP. If Japan got a “AESA equipped F-16*” then suddenly everyone would be demanding the same upgrade and it would become a mess pretty quickly. Also, I reckon they havent figured out how to model it yet. Look at PESA and people moaning about that

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That’s a possibility.

Really, though, Gaijin could just introduce the F/A-18C with AIM-120C-5s and it’d easily be able to compete with the F-2.

why do i even argue with you ;D

Damn, that’s crazy.

nah, you were pretty much on point. they developed their own airframe design with the F-2
its a true domestic design.

regarding AESA, doesnt the new Mi-8 get one?
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or did they remove it since its announcement?

Right,

You’ve could of made that statement in the first place m8

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Look at the 229 for F-15E even. Forgetting that the US already has the F-16C for CAS, the F-15E doesn’t even need the engines to do its job. It’s just now going to be the best F-15 the US has (and best F-15 in general). Though I’d argue that Gaijin should give the US their F-15E with AESA radar and call it a day since Su-34 comes with its PESA.

Yes, but kinda the point. I cant think of a better test bed for AESA Beta Testing than a Heli, especially if we predict the F-2 in 6 weeks in the December update.

F-2 probably otherwise could have come last december without much issue