Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

And also the r-darter wasn’t only for the cheetah given that Pakistan use it now, and was considered by Brazil for its F-5

I am always impressed with your lineups, hahah.

I don’t think I know anyone else with such large and comprehensive lineups at all, both in terms of size and variety.

No, they’re not. The vast majority are indigenous to either Yugoslavia or the post Yugoslav nations, and I’m not just talking about things like the M-84, which is a license produced T-72M. There’s the SO-122, the Wirbel Stuart, the M-18 T-55, the Vozilo, the later M-84s, the M-95, and many, many others.

Personally never really managed to get ATGMs in general to work well (except for maybe the ZT3s and to a lesser extent swingfire. From being on the receiving end I’d say Kornets work well, but I don’t have anything in the RU tree so I can’t form a full opinion there) . I’d personally take the 35mm, not a massive fan of the 25mm bushmaster, espically with the kinda poor round the DW has.

Heh, I tend to have quite expansive line ups in GB, JP, & FR mid tier (and the US ~9.7-10.7 event vehicles tier), but deffo don’t have all expert/aced and max level crews lmao.

(I’d send some screenshots for critique, but I need to go monitor shopping tomorrow before the update goes live lmao, today of all days :/)

I missed the crews, that makes that even more impressive! Hahahah

…and I thought my lineups were good xD.

That being said, my lineups are kinda crippled by my refusal of using any kind of air units at all due to my peculiar code of honour lmao. Only nation where I make an exception is the U.S, in an attempt at reinforcing it in some way so that it feels worth playing.

I am also researching German helicopters, I may end up making a second exception with EC665…

In every other tree, I’m too far in the plane and helicopter departments to even consider grinding any, and it would break my code anyway, so eh xD.

Not even a crumb of airplane for CAP?

That is dedication

Best I can do is multiple SAMs, as in Japan, where I use both Type 81 (C) and Type 93!

So when revenge C*S spawnkills one of them, I can revenge-SAM them back with the other.

When it comes to CAP, the SP cost is just not worth it… so expensive! Besides, the only two nations where I have Top Tier planes are U.S and Germany, no other- and since I’m not much of a plane person except for Top Tier, I am not willing to grind any other tree either anyway hahah, which is another reason why I don’t even consider using CAS with them- both as a matter of principle and as a matter of viability.

I see no chivalry in ground I play CAS if I have the mind to do so. I only go for undamaged, player aircraft not bombing a base in ARB, especially in props, but for ground? It sucks down there, aint it.

Eh, I tend to have a CAP option (if you’re any good in props, a decent premium can farm atm at ~4.7-5.3), and sometimes a cas aircraft that just doesn’t work very well in AirRB (Buccaneers or 1st gen harriers for example), or for dealing with spawn campers.

Oh, I was talking about 12.0, which is what I almost exclusively play hahah

In lower tiers, I have no issue using all sorts of planes indeed, since I have in most nations at least up to Rank III-IV and I find them to be more balanced and not as dishonourable as in Top Tier; so I use stuff like BF-110, IL-8, F-6Fs, P-40s, etc.

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On 13.0 to the Harrier’s. Just for fun

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we have photos of it carrying them…
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Yeah same here.

No matter what my personal view on CAS is, I still try my utmost to help my team to victory. If that involves dropping 2000lb bombs and Zunis on some unfortunate victims, then may god have mercy on their souls XD

I think most people would absolutely bomb you in return if given the chance, so that’s why I don’t feel too bad about it.

One bomb you dropped on the enemy meant potentially one less bomb on your teams head.

Hah, we’re opposities then, can’t stand anything 10.7 or higher. Atm doing a lot of 9.7 Japan (Kinda excited for the incoming AV-8S, should slot right in minus the issues with Harriers and being able to flare anything), 8.3/.7 & 9.7 Britain for the Buccaneers and the Harrier GR3 (probably end up doing a lot of 8.7/9.7 for the Scimitar when the update drops), I’m working on Italy at 8.0 with the prem M60 & the 60mm Aubl, finally I’ve be really enjoying the M41A3, although I’ve have to fill my other 4 slots in that line up with CAP and SPAA lmao.

At least 240 flares for AV-8S vs the 60 on the GR3 and none on the GR1 should help mitigate those issues a little.

To be completely honest I don’t think I’ve defeated any missile in my GR3 recently with flares, always end up having to try and defeat it entirely kinematically, even using up all 60 doesn’t help. So I don’t really think it’ll help much. Hopefully on release it’ll get its propper RWR (The Spanish upgraded them with Sky Guardian 200s before they where eventually sold off to the Thai) which imo would be more helpful.

Yeah… Sounds about right. but just pre-flare everything :P

Anyone know if anymore helicopters are getting their damage models / internals updated in Firebirds?