Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

There cannot be any argument against Typhoon and Rafale coming ASAP. If it truly is delayed till next March/June then I hope that is because no new top tier aircraft are being added for any other nation. Its getting kinda stupid now.

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“Oh hey these nations have the most meta jet in the game”

“Ok cool give it an insane buff”

“What?”

“Their winrates are bad, make them damn near unkillable if the pilots have any brain cells”

“Yes sir”

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Whats funny. I’ll probably still get kills against the F-15E in the Sea Harrier FA2.

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M4K superiority)))

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For anyone saying the typhoon would be too much, please try and remember. When was the last time you actually got into a dog fight at top tier? All that matters is radar, acceleration and missiles. The missiles and number of them is equal or worse than anything already in game. Its acceleration is good but the f15 has a better top speed. Its radar is good but its not better than everything else as its only tranche 1.

All this to say it would be a gripen with more missiles while being a better rate fighter.

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Still confuses me when i win dog fights in the FA2 against f16a’s because they dont understand that constant afterburner is bad… Still dont think the ice should be 13.0, let alone the av8b which is already better than our shar.

guys how are you sorry to interrupt the on-going conversation but pls go support us we did it with the F-15E we can do it with the F-15I am asking a favour it cost nothing to help us thanks!
The F-15I should have its missing israeli ground ordinance: AGM-142 Popeye, Spice-1000/2000 we need our own guided munitions, just 2 AGM-142 would be great i dont care if i lose 4 air to air missile we need a FnF missile with the capability to counter the SPAAs specially the pantsir we are not asking for something of another world we are asking for something reasonable.
the AGM-142 in terminal phase uses the IR seeker to guide the missile to its target (around 15 to 20km launch range) the AGM-142 can be added with the same launch range as the KH-38MT but in this case it just 2 missiles instead of 6 in the SU-34 also the Ra´am would lose 4 air to air missiles because of the AGM-142 dimentions, the Spice-1000/2000 are also IR and GPS guided in the case of the SPICE-2000 the Ra´am can carry 4, and for the SPICE-1000 the Ra´am can carry 6, SPICE bombs can be added with the IR guidance with the exact same lock range that the Mavericks D and G have but without a propulsion.

@Smin1080p_WT pls if you have an answer about the missing israeli FnF ordinance for the Ra´am just let us know thank you.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ccA8L3iIFKbB

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I dont care/mind about the AV-8B+ there is pros and cons for both, but the SHar just needs to fixed/finished for them to apply. But yeah, ICE is BS, especially with the F3 Late not moving anywhere

The leak said ASEAN going to China too so anything can change. They might prioritize getting EFT this December instead. We hope anyway.

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It’s not our job to try and fix the game, and I mean that literally.

And what “needs to be done”, exactly? Writing reports? Making forum posts? People have done all that and it’s led nowhere. Even when handed on a silver platter, Gaijin will refuse to fix a bug. Sure some take time, but some are as simple as activating a plate of armor on the visual model that isn’t in the damage model (the Leclerc UFP).

There’s no berating of major nation players. Good for them for getting special attention. But minor nation players have the right to be upset when majors blatantly get special treatment.

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Is Gaijin Entertainment looking into smoke that defeats radar signals?

Yeah… I dont trust that leak entirely and I wouldnt put it past them to say its coming way later, so that its a bigger suprirse if/when it comes

But…

US: Move F-15E to 14.0 and add F-18
USSR: Su-30
Germany, Italy and Britain: Typhoon
France: Rafale
Sweden: Gripen NG
China: J-10B or J-11B
Israel: F-15E to 14.0 and add Lavi?
Japan: F-2

Would make a decent update

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The F/A-18C has been effectively confirmed for December, however that’s a sidegrade to what we have now, so the Typhoon and Rafale would still be competitive. Unless, of course, Gaijin pulls the “you need to wait for X” card again.

The J-10B is the next step, and there’s also the J-11B, which will be substantially better than the J-11A, with it having Chinese missiles and radar.

Yeah…

But Id say they got Typhoon equals this update, so their guranteed new aircraft next update doesnt need to be equal

Thank you, China is not an area I know much about

I wouldn’t be surprised if the J-15 is added next year, either, as, to my knowledge, it’s the closest direct Chinese counterpart to the F/A-18C, being a naval multirole fighter.

Yeah, would be a good fit for early next year

The Typhoon update bringing them, an early Rafale, the J-15, and perhaps some other stuff like the F-16I and Gripen NG would be ideal.

Yep, would be a good way to salvage what has ultimately been a kinda disapointing year for most european nations for air.