Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

Tornado IDS?

F-111C

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in night cocpit only

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In a way I’m glad for this as it means exactly what you’ve stated. More Gen 4.5s to give parity which means we’ll leapfrog faster and to me that’s good news as that means F-2 faster. I also think it’s good for the game because the sooner we have these advanced aircraft the sooner the focus can shift over to other facets of the game.

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I feel like we are gonna see a Iran & Iraqi sub trees after this world war mode because it’s what they’ve done with Israel. As they were WWM exclusives then gaijin added them as a nation later.

bandicam 2024-11-05 01-50-21-815

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Like they got the tech, they got the flags all that needs them to do is to add them to whatever nation they sees fit

Like WWM : Chinese farm was in June 2020 and the Israeli tree came out in October 2021

So what about the CAS capability that the F-15I lacks? Since F-15E can get 229, then F-15I should also get AGM142/AGM65D.

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Without 229s, sure, Eurofighter and Rafale are more powerful than the F-15. WITH 229s and the F-15 is about equal, being able to kinematically defeat any missile fired at you is plain overpowered without counters.

This also only applies to earlier variants, it’s not like I’m asking for an FR.4 at 13.7.

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i think spice bomb is way to go, agm142 is a bit much and it never used mavericks

US mains complain:

Gaijin:

“We’ll fix this issue ASAP, we are so sorry we did this to you”

Other nations complain:

Gaijin:

“Who are you again?”

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It doesn’t matter. It’s better than nothing.

The issue is we should receive those jets NOW if 229 F-15s are to be added, how will other nations compete if some of them can’t even reliably engage outside of 20km.

There cannot be any argument against Typhoon and Rafale coming ASAP. If it truly is delayed till next March/June then I hope that is because no new top tier aircraft are being added for any other nation. Its getting kinda stupid now.

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“Oh hey these nations have the most meta jet in the game”

“Ok cool give it an insane buff”

“What?”

“Their winrates are bad, make them damn near unkillable if the pilots have any brain cells”

“Yes sir”

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Whats funny. I’ll probably still get kills against the F-15E in the Sea Harrier FA2.

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M4K superiority)))

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For anyone saying the typhoon would be too much, please try and remember. When was the last time you actually got into a dog fight at top tier? All that matters is radar, acceleration and missiles. The missiles and number of them is equal or worse than anything already in game. Its acceleration is good but the f15 has a better top speed. Its radar is good but its not better than everything else as its only tranche 1.

All this to say it would be a gripen with more missiles while being a better rate fighter.

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Still confuses me when i win dog fights in the FA2 against f16a’s because they dont understand that constant afterburner is bad… Still dont think the ice should be 13.0, let alone the av8b which is already better than our shar.

guys how are you sorry to interrupt the on-going conversation but pls go support us we did it with the F-15E we can do it with the F-15I am asking a favour it cost nothing to help us thanks!
The F-15I should have its missing israeli ground ordinance: AGM-142 Popeye, Spice-1000/2000 we need our own guided munitions, just 2 AGM-142 would be great i dont care if i lose 4 air to air missile we need a FnF missile with the capability to counter the SPAAs specially the pantsir we are not asking for something of another world we are asking for something reasonable.
the AGM-142 in terminal phase uses the IR seeker to guide the missile to its target (around 15 to 20km launch range) the AGM-142 can be added with the same launch range as the KH-38MT but in this case it just 2 missiles instead of 6 in the SU-34 also the Ra´am would lose 4 air to air missiles because of the AGM-142 dimentions, the Spice-1000/2000 are also IR and GPS guided in the case of the SPICE-2000 the Ra´am can carry 4, and for the SPICE-1000 the Ra´am can carry 6, SPICE bombs can be added with the IR guidance with the exact same lock range that the Mavericks D and G have but without a propulsion.

@Smin1080p_WT pls if you have an answer about the missing israeli FnF ordinance for the Ra´am just let us know thank you.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ccA8L3iIFKbB

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