Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

I do hope this gets fixed as right now they can maybe achieve a max range of 15 maybe 16km

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These are changes

But they dont change the key limitations of the weapon system.
It’s still painfully slow.
It still doesnt kill in one hit
It still loses so much energy and it still acts like a modern day Bullpup needing constant guidance.

The issue isnt the weapon system its the implementation in the game.

(I know its not getting an FnF mode) which means it’s just not worth taking

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Hopefully we see this soon in the game, this would be a massive win for sim players that like to play CAS or strike aircraft

There’s already an accepted bug report for SPICE and Popeyes for the F-15i. IRL I’m not 100% sure if it could mount mavericks, but I don’t think they are/were used on the Ra’am.

Hoping the Mirage 2000D RMV devblog will be this week, given the specific situation of that aircraft the plans shared regarding it 's implementation will probably give a clearer picture for how new AAM weaponry will be introduced in future updates too.

This is historical, unless there is any additional sources to show its incorrect. Its currently setup using all available public information.

It seems to for me in most cases?

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Again, this will need a report with any evidence to show its performance is not correct.

Sadly changes cant be made without some evidence to show exactly what you are claiming is incorrect.

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could we get mmW missiles on a test server at some point?

It doesnt always kill in a single hit and we wont know for sure until its on the live server.

Gaijin have made the choice to add 2nd? (gen Brimstone) it has a weaker motor and reduced range
I’m yet to acheive a 20km range hit.

They fall out of the sky we dont have drag coefficients.

We are also forced to use them to try and deal with modern (current day systems like Pantsir) we should dump Brimstone and just give Tornado ALARM.

I know we dont have ARM but isnt that what the Kh-38 is used for?

These types of missiles are currently not planned to come to the game anytime soon for the reasons outlined in the Tornado Dev blog.

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@Smin1080p_WT now youre here anyways, is the fact the pantsir cant guide missiles to multiple targets now a bug or intended. i never got a response to the report i made

1st Generation Brimstones (non-dual mode) do not have a SAL mode, therefor they are not possible to currently add.

I do not have an answer at hand on this. Its the type of thing evidence would need to be submitted in a report to confirm if it could or could not.

Thanks for the clarification

its moreso that its always been here and now its gone with seemingly no notes in the changelog which makes me wonder if its a bug. but ill add some stuff to the report i guess

luckily its right here
http://roe.ru/eng/catalog/air-defence-systems/air-defense-systems-and-mounts/"Pantsir-S1"/

a source gaijin has used themselves. surely thats good enough then right? right?

I understand your point but yall do understand Spanish is fighting the same fight as yall right??

If you give up trying to make changes to the game change will never happen and your TT will be left in a worse and worse state and I dont think thats what anyone wants

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I don’t mean to be demeaning or ignorant, but considering MBDA state it has a “proximity fuse capability” on their website, what is there to investigate?

(Source: BRIMSTONE | Air Dominance, TACTICAL STRIKE | MBDA - access via “Related Documents” and then “Download” which provides a PDF)

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if ROE is a valid source mbda should be too id say

Its not a question of sourcing currently, just that its one of the tasked reports under review in queue.

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That was never questioned it was the inability to accept that 1000 people will always have more influence than 100.

The notion of “work harder” is just nonesense.

Imagine they added the AGM-65 in game without its FnF mode. The 1000 US mains would have the influence to change it. Look at the F-15E engines…

Smaller nations do not have that, then you have to factor in nation rivalries. A US main is never going to vote on a Russian jet having a new missile system.
We are all needlessly tribal and if someone has something we think we should get it.

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Everyone banded together to get F15E buffed as it was weaker in A2A than F-15I.

And now that F-15I is substantially weaker than F-15E in A2G, nothing will be done.

Sad reality of playing smaller playerbase trees.

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