Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

It also gives away your position and that there’s an spaa

A willing trade OFF TO being able to see a threat reliable and NOT EYE BALL IT in a milk truck hoping not to die to someone mging you

Oh the Type 81 is the king of short range air defence
Easily the best under 8km
It’s over where it’s struggles or can’t do

The type 81 c is a crippled spaa system that has a radar trailer it doesnt come with. leaving you to try and eyeball the entire map while not dying to enemy ground or helicopters ot jets .

Yeah but calling it better than the ADATS it’s janky honestly, yeah i’ll admit the missile gets kills more easily on manouvering aircraft but it’s more limited by range and type of target aswell as weather unlike the ADATS wich it’s more versatile and consistant

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You first have to see the target yes ?

I’ve not used either but from recent experience facing them
I’m more scared of a type 81 by a long long way

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This is literally arguing who has the worst top tier SAM in the game.

At the end of the day, it doesnt matter. Anything with any form of guided weapon, will kill you before ever entering weapons range of either at top tier.

Neither are effective SPAA. Under ideal conditions, Id give the Type 81 a slight advantage due to longer (slightly) range missiles and FnF missiles.

but comparing which is better doesnt stop either from being bad

What we need is new top tier SAMs for all nations. Now the Type 81 can get ARH missiles Britain on the other hand… We have no idea if we will get anything

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Yes, thankfully if they’re flying in adats range you can
I have many kills in my RBS70 launcher

And otomatic can see a target mor reliable then you can eyeball on it a type 81 c fleeing from a random fart killing you on the ground. You are highly limited and situational spaa that is crippled from lacking a radar trailer.

The Lvrbv 701 is in a far worse position and I bring it to top tier and do fine
I can’t kill everything bc 7km range but hey Ho

I have more success with the Stormer than the ADATS at top tier but has the same issue

Is the arh missle real going to solve the biggest issue with the type 81 c seeing a target to fire on it. My issue isnt with the ir missles beside them being general shit on helicopter they are decent missles. I want to see an air threat beyond visual range I dont want to hope i sweep over a pinprick with my eyeballs only not to be able to fire on it because i cant lock it

The ASRAD annoys me bc of its radar ironically so I turn it off and use the bolide normally

the 701 has more armor then a milk truck doesnt it im not saying the type 81 cant kill air its random luck to find the air unit to kill it to start

It is a man in open air

pantsir and tungsuka cant technically defend themselves against ground and low flying helicopters and jets the type 81 c is limited and its one role you are trying to eyeball the entire map

Honestly… Armour on an SPAA is rather irrelevant. You dont survive a direct hit in most SPAA, except the Pantsir and FlakRad and probably the ItOs which can wierdly survive 120mm HESH rounds

Why did you name two SPAAs with guns and missiles which are very well equipped to deal with both jets and Helis

I have literally stared at tigers and ka50/52s sitting on they spawn literally killing me with a atgm while I fail to lock them with the type 81