Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

You spend a lot of time comparing Japan to countries who have it marginally better, but no thought to the countries who have it far worse.

All in all, in the wider balance of things, Japans MBT’s are not suffering.

If you dont kill the other tank out right or dont take its gun your are dead. It will 80-90 of the time kill you no matter what the mbt is or what round it is because you have next to functional armor and any hit can kill you pretty much

Because the type 10 is a paper tiger tank it has no armor to protect itself from return shots

I fully acknowledge Italy has it rough

The vast majority of other top tier tanks don’t have adequate or even useful protection either.

Outside of Relikt and Leopard wedges + appliqué, there’s basically nothing which stands up to top darts. (Edit - forgot, the Chinese ERA ain’t bad either)

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Challenger 3TD has no spall liners and yes it has a little armour, but with all the ammo stored in the turret. With no spall liners. It rarely survives one round.

Both have some of the worst survivability in game, there is no doubt about it. If anything can aim even slightly and not hit the CR3TDs turret cheeks, then both are dead in teh first shot most of the time.

The slightly better mobility of the ariete combiend with the faster reload just barely edge them out ahead of it as those traits make it a slightly more effective glass canon. But its close, a hairs breadth at most

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The challenger has the advantge of a more spread out crew and more room

Okay so how do you sugggest fixing japan current state not denying otherrs dont have it bad. But you do understand that if gaijin doesnt fix the cas to spaa issue several nations are going to be at best 1 death leavers

Barely, a shot to the gunbreach will kill all crew most of the time and probably hit the ammo in the process.

As opposed to just farting in the direction of type 10 frontally

More room for what? The charge bins scattered everywhere which causes the tank to be scattered across a five mile radius every time a round gets through.

No armour best armour only works if there’s not things which go boom literally everywhere lol.

introduce the actual Type 81C with its actual radar guided missile which has longer range

It still needs a radar unit as giving the type 81 c long range missiles heklp but you got to be able to see them to and eyeballing it is pretty hard yes ?

can be, or you can use japans really good air

That might be true I would still like my chances in the challenger vs a type 10 in close quarters

You have to get the spawn points for that

japan has plenty of vehicles with the ability to scout and a few decent tanks

I think an adats or a chu-mpm would be fair to give japan. I dont as japanese main need a second bus sized ifv with a 30mm

ARH 81C is useless, it’s still same rocket, and the radar also triggers RWR, it’s still short ranged, can’t hit targets in 8+km

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The type 16 is decent should arguable get assess to better nato 105 mm shells since its a licence built l7